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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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Racing Beat SS Oil Cooler line Torque specs for real?

An insert came inside my Racing Beat oil cooler order claiming I need to torque the fittings to 300-360 Inch-Pounds.

WTF!

Anyway, I went to Sears to see what is available for torque wrenches and the most they had was 300 Inch-Pounds and it was only in ractchet form which of corse will not fit 3 of the 4 stock settings and will not fit 4 of the 4 Racing Beat SS lines as all of them require an open end box style wrench.

Can I get away with some medium locktight and standing on the wrench or what the heck do I do? Not to mention that all the positions are kind of hard to get to in order to exert a serious force on.
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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That sound about right. 360in.lb is about 30ft.lb. You should be able to get that with a hand wench. Be sure and check for leaks after start up. Good luck!

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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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"standing on the wrench" (?) in/lbs does not equal ft/lbs
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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I can get 30 Ft-Lbs out of a normal Craftsman combonation wrench. I probably wouldn't have to use the cheater pipe. (Mine's a piece of steel pipe which I wrote "Snap-On" on the side. That increases the torque by 30%!) Although I may have to double link two wrenches.
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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I probably wouldn't have to use the cheater pipe
If one can't create 30ft-lbs with there bare hands, you can't lift thirty pounds. The wrenches you use to tighten them up are plenty long to give you a torqueing advantage.
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Old Jul 23, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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wackyrotary is right, you can easily create enough pressure to tighten it, the point of using a torque wrench is to make sure that you are tightening the bolt/fitting/whatever to a specific amount.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 12:21 AM
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Look at the slip - it is INCH pounds. They do not want you to OVER tighten it. If you do both Earls and Racing Beat will void your warrenty.

The specs for my RB/Earls SS brake lines are 60 inch - pounds of torque.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 02:19 AM
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30 ft lbs is by definition, applying 30 lbs of pressure 1 foot away from the point of pivot (the bolt or nut for example)

30 inch pounds is exerting 30 lbs of pressure an inch away from the point of pivot... doesn't sound right, but it is...

So if you slap a 3 foot long extension (cheater) on a wrencg, you only have to exert 10 lbs of pressure on the pipe, 3 feet away from the pivot point to get 30 foot lbs...

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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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So, we are talking about 300 inch pounds, if we divide that by 12 be would get foot pounds.

Right? This would mean 25 foot pounds (300/12=25)
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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yup, 300 inch pounds would be about 25 foot pounds, and 360 inch pounds would be about 30 foot lbs.

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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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Take your 360 in-lbs. and divide by 12. Now you have your ft.-lbs. and you can use your regular torque wrench. Simple as that...
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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D'oh!! That's what I get for trying to do some work before replying to obvious problems....darn work getting in the way of my posting...

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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Just curious then, where can I get an openbox wrench style torque wrench since Sears and OSH only have/had ratchet style? I can't use a ratchet since there is a HOSE coming out of each end of the bolts. On the stock hoses, the one end that came out of the left of the engine closest to the firewall HAD a bolt which allowed a rachet, but even that is gone with these new fittings.

Also, 300-360 inch lbs is 25-30 feet lbs which doesn't seem like very much. I was literally just barely able to remove these hoses and I am still working on the 2 connections which go into the Oil Cooler. When I grabbed an Oil Cooler from the junkyard I had to stand on it while pulling with both hands. Does that sound like 25-30 feet lbs of torque or is this just what happens over 17years of being connected?


Funny luck, I took the initiative to rebuild my slave and master clutch cylinders and when I got to the car, I started it up and all this Oil Cooler crap happened. It's been like a month now.

PS: Thanks for the lesson in Torque of inches vs pounds. I had no idea there were two different measurments. Just assumed 300lbs was 300lbs.

?
http://www.stahlwille.com/torque_wrench_accessories.htm
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 12:21 PM
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what you should do is go to your local parts place and buy a "Crow's Foot" in the size you need. It's a thing with an open end wrench head on one end, and a 3/8" or 1/2" or 3/4" drive rachet acceptor on the other... Changes your socket-drive torque wrench into an open end one... Work wonders.

Jeff
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