Alex-7

Does anyone know anything about the sneeky pete notrous system? Were does the line run to, the air cleaner or the manifold. Does it make any worth while power? all the ad says is "It'll shave off an extra tenth without anyone knowing" Sence it's only a 10oz bottle I've been toying with the idea of mounting it in the glove box of my se (if it'll fit) more for a novelty effect than anything else.


Any input is appreciated.

--Alex


"The Sneeky Pete was designed as a true "Cheater Kit." This kit will enable you to obtain that extra tenth of a second without being obvious. It will be necessary to jet the carburetors a little richer (over and above what is normal, since you will have to compensate for the nitrous from the Sneeky Pete) while being "sneeky" since no additional fuel source is utilized. The kit comes complete with a compact, easy to conceal 10oz. bottle, nitrous solenoid, nylon nitrous line, wiring, 9v battery holder and an assortment of jets. Carry it in a briefcase!"

V8kilr

For novelty effect I'd paint a small fire extenguisher and put a fat NOS sticker on it, save your money unless your going to go about adding nitrious the right way.

They sell a rotary kit or even better you can just make the kit yourself and save a good amount of money.

I made my own kit pretty damn cheap.

I pickep up most of my parts on ebay, it all started when I won some fogger nozzles really cheap and I just kept building the system part buy part until I had a complete system.

On another note make sure you go WET not dry.
You will have to remove the intake manifold and drill 4 holes in and buy a high pressure fuel pump but whipidoo compaired to all that you stand to benefit over a dry system, A#1 would be NOT blowing up your motor.

That baby kit is good for bikes though.

Alex-7

Same displacement as a 'bussa


Seriously though, I like the idea of a little nitrous. I just don't want anything too big or something I'll be tempted to use very often. What HP jets are you using? I was thinking something like 50-75 would be safe.

I have a Holley blue fuel pump that'll run 14 psi but is currently cut to six, would that be sufficiant?


Or could I just use a universal Holley plate system like the Powershot? most of those kits say V8 only.


Thanks for your help.

--Alex


:edit: Who sells a rotary kit? :edit:

V8kilr

Well for a wet system you would need a DEDICATED fuel pump.

I had mine (this is a lil complicated and does not in any way have to be done) wired up to a timer delay relay. This is so when I would flip my nitrious switch it would fire up my pump and start building pressure then trigger a dash led so I know its ready. Before the led is on I was not able to spray at all, just some simply relays and unless
1- the nitrious toggle was flipped on
2- my led was on indicating fuel pressure was up
3- my pedal was down full throttle
4- I pressed the go baby go button

I wired the pump so it wasnt running all the time, not that it would hurt anything since all fuel pumps are made to be ran the whole time your car is on. I just didnt want to waste resources on something that wasnt being used.

I was setup for a 125hp shot. I got closer to 100hp with it.
In all honesty the extra 100hp was nuthing as far as motor wear and tear goes.

A mildly modified 12a (header, straight pipe exhaust with no cat, good igntion system, good working carburetor) will handle 100hp from a wet system with no problems.

Just make sure you atleast have a really good igntion system, something like the kits I made, an aftermarket header , racing beat comes to mind, a straight exhaust system, exhaust flow is extremely important, and a straight through muffler, again ask superchaged guys about this, exhaust flow is extremely important.

Exhaust flow is important on a turbo system but for other reasons, on a supercharged thunderbird v6 for example if you increase your supercharger boost without increasing exhaust flow you will do some serious damage to your heads.

Just keep in mind that nitrous is shot into the motor at pressure in the thousands and when there is too much pressure and your motor cant get it all out as more and more is comming in something will give, and it wont be the nitrous system.

Oh yes and for the bussa comment that is true but adding 20hp is to bussa is ALOT different then adding 20hp to an rx7
btw i dont know how much hp that system adds, just making a point.

V8kilr

Heres what appears to be a complete setup currently under $100 and 2 days left

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33740

or you can just buy the stuff part by part like I did. It easy to get a parts list together by going to the NOS webiste and looking at what parts are listed in each kit.

Alex-7

True that.


Thanks for all your help, this is the first time I've gotten clear answers about nitrous. A dedicated fuel pump is something I've never thought would be nessisary.

My mods are in my sig, the motor is brand spankin new so I think it'll be up to the task.

I might try and piece a kit togeather or try and find something used, either way I'll prolly have some more questions for you in the future.


Thanks,
--Alex

V8kilr

No problem.

Not many people on this forum have tried nitrious but many will preach about it. Mostly the downsides they preach of are only the outcome of an improper installation / setup and or operator that just was poorly taught about the do's and dont's of nitrious.

Feel free to pour the questions on and I'd love to help in selecting parts if you decide to build it yourself.

Just try to post your questions here on forum and avoid private messages as much as possible so everyone can learn all at once.

Good luck which ever road you decide.

vipernicus42

iTrader: (4)

Lol.. then you have a fire and someone sees you going to "put the fire out" using nos... I'm sure they would freak!



Jon

Fromslowtogo

i haven a sneaky pete system i bought off a friend brand new haven't put it in the 7 yet well because id like to put my engine in first lol i got a 68 a 74 and a 100 shot jets i plan on putting it in a storage bin. how much is it new?

mar3

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You have to run the carburetor several jets richer when you run the sneeky pete system....it's for that time when you need a little help at the track and have no qualms breaking the rules...not really a street system...the little "pill" bolts onto the carbs air cleaner stud and dispenses the nitrous from that point...it's really meant for square bore carbs...is that Holley 600 a conventional square bore Holley? You'll have no problems bolting it on and I guess rotaries do run on the rich side anyhow, so it might be fun...for about 2 passes...lol

85MarkRx7

I think the sneaky pete system is $215 or $230 I was thinking that would be cool to it can mount in your aircleaner or airbox.

mar3

iTrader: (8)

That's the whole point...a single line that can be disguised as a vacuum tube running up or under the air cleaner won't draw attention normally, except for the street racing crowd - who'd want you to pull the air cleaner lid, anyway..."Sure, if you got fifty bucks right now...."

DAVID GRIMES

There's a hell of alot of difference between getting an extra tenth with a sneaky pete and what you can get with a properly done 75 or 100 horse shot.

Two other things to take into account: First of all, you will like it. YOU WILL LIKE IT ALOT, so don't limit your tank size to the little pete bottle that is good for a couple passes. And second, it's a pain in the *** anyway to refill the bottles, so again don't limit your tank size to the little pete bottle that is good for a couple passes. What Im really trying to say here is don't limit your tank size to the little pete bottle that is good for a couple passes.

Let me know if I haven't made myself clear enough. I'll change my tone or something...

P.S. Don't limit your tank size to the little pete bottle that is good for a couple passes.

mar3

iTrader: (8)

How about two of them....

DAVID GRIMES

Twice as nice !!!

But after you start drinkin', the ponies turn into tall boys and before you know it you gotta either get cases or kegs.

kettlman

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well, i just bought this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT. been waiting for the right time to do it. winters not the best time, but what the hell. i NEED it. i'll let you know how it works.

here's a site that will educate you on the nitrous system and how they work. there's also a forum, but it doesn't get much activity. http://www.diy-nitrous.fsnet.co.uk/

Alex-7

Please do.


Thats a good site. I remember that guy from Performance Bikes.


The more I think about it the more I think I might just buy a plate system like the one you just picked up. Looks like you got a pretty good deal.

What are you going to do for extra fuel? Extra fuel pump?


What of spark plugs? for the love of god what of spark plugs?

--Alex

mcnannay

that looks like a cool kit kettleman, but its dry im assuming. I think that could get to be a pain in the ***, because you would always be running rich, or you would have to just switch out jets everytime you want to use the nitrous. Okay if you're just using it on the track though

I want to use a wet system in the future, im thinking you could just use one high performance fuel pump with a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. Then if you use a vacuum solenoid to only supply vacuum to the fpr when you are shooting the nitrous that would work fine, i don't see a need to use a seperate fuel pump if you do it that way.

Alex-7

I think the plate under the carb ( after the fuel) is a "wet" kit. Am I wrong?


--Alex

mar3

iTrader: (8)

Plate systems are generally wet...

mcnannay

ahhhh, my bad...well that sounds like a sweet setup then

now i need to come up with about $350, id love to try nitrous out (never thought id say that)

FB II

i'm adding it on top of my turbo setup eventually for the track runs

kettlman

iTrader: (2)

good. i believe it is a wet system( i hope!). but yeah. i can't wait to get it in and put it on. i'll use the regular plugs, maybe my other ones, the , crap i don't remember but i got them from racing beat. the ones for race only. and for the fuel pump i've got a holley blue. so i should have sufficiant fuel. i just can't wait to hit it the first time. just like sex, always best the first time. so hopefully i'll be able to let you know how it works next week sometime.

Alex-7

Ah, me too. I've looked into that NX Hitman kit and it seems to add extra fuel through the plate at the same time as the nitrous. Is this true? If so then it should be plenty safe, and you wont have to re-jet your carb. Right?

I cant wait to hear how this turns out, Pics, vids, whatever. You should do a little install write up for us.



I need NAAAAWWWWZZZZZ! (never ever thought id say that)

--Alex

kettlman

iTrader: (2)

yeah. i got it cause it was easy set up. was lookin into tapping my intake and all that, but i need simplisity. so it adds the right amount of gas to the right amount of nitrous. should be a simple install, just placing everything. could have gone cheaper, but the lifetime warranty on the selunoids really attracted me tpo a new system.