Most of you guys think nos is the way to go, what size/brand would be best for the carbed 12A?

 

I honestly think there is better things to do than n2o it's very bad on your engine especially if it hasn't been rebuilt, it may look ricey but if you go with n2o carry a fire extinguisher with you. If you ever plan on getting it rebuilt (if you haven't already), definately consider a port job

 

and paint it blue, and apply a Nos decal. Youll be all set!

 

^ Yea... it is getting old...

 

I'm trying to be serious here quit acting like a ****.

 

We do?

~T.J.

 

He was refering to the best bang for the buck, most people suggest nitrous in the thread i made that i told him to search for.

 

only use a wet kit and you will be rebuilding or replacing your engin or both in a very short time. the bang is your engine !!!!!!!!

 

Woah!! What a generalization!! **** man, I think most people here think NOS ISN'T the way to go!

If you're gonna do nos, you almost *have* to rebuild your engine, otherwise it's gonna blow to smitherines, even if you use it properly, it just puts too much stress on it. And if you're gonna rebuild, you might as well port while you're in there.

Either way, you can go with traditional mods like exhaust, carb, etc.. or NOS with a rebuild.. it's not ever gonna be cheap. If you're lookin' for cheap, quick power, buy a beat up old Civic, nos it, and just toss it at the end of the summer when the engine's blown... Buy another 500$ beat up civic jobby next summer and repeat the process..

Or you could just forget nos, and do the *good* mods

Jon

 

Sometime over the summer, I will probably get a nitrous system for track only. By then i will have my SP rebuilt motor w/ full exhaust and a holley 465. Alas, even then, i will probably only be in the low 14's with lots of tuning, and even if god reaches down and throws my tail across the track, 13's would still be unlikey. So, I will be shooting for something to get me into the 13's without going turbo or supercharging. I think thats the ideal setup for nitrous, on a rebuilt motor and for very occaisional use. I see no point in using nitrous on a regular basis on the streets in a stock or nearly stock motor. It would get expensive fast, and still wouldnt be as fun as a properly ported motor.

 

I think I should voice my opinion here...I install nitrous kits all the time, from LT1 engines to SR20DE engines...it is the best bang for the buck if done properly but it's still expensive. Each bottle refill is $ and depending on how much you like to squeeze it can become adictive and really expensive. The only bad thing about nitrous is if you have it installed by a bad installer. I only do wet systems and try to build them conservative.

I personally would love to be able to beat a bunch of blabber mouths with a simple push of a button and to me would be easy to just slap a 100hp shot in one of my 12a but I haven't nor I plan too soon. Instead I streetported one engine and was enough to get me half way there one night. Nitrous IS the way to go if you want to prove u can beat someone but to do it All the time and have a better all around performer the only way to go is to spend the money on a nice port job or an engine swap, Tii convertion etc.

sudox with proper porting/weight reduction you'll hit the 13s and you will not need nos. But I agree exactly with your comments, for the ocassional drag racer there is no substitute for nos.

 

I mean a nice bridge port...sudox...

 

What's really funny is these people who have never used nitrous or even ridden in a car that had it that are downing it. The fact is a nitrous system will not harm your engine. An untuned and improperly installed nitrous system WILL harm your engine. If you pay attention to what you're doing and make sure no one part of the system (i.e. upgraded fuel pump, larger fuel lines, good solenoids, etc.) is missing, the only drawback to running a bottle is that you've gotta stop and refill it once in awhile. Your rotor face doesn't know if the increased combustion pressure is from a turbo cramming more air in, or from the richer oxygen content of the "juice"...

--Danny

 

true danny..so true

 

Sorry guys, didn't mean to generalize, just going on the best bang for the buck thread.

 

What so many people dont realize that a lot of mods out there can be harmful to an engine. The biggest problem is going to be running lean. Compared to the great NOS question, you hardly ever hear anyone say "dont turbcharge your engine, you'll blow it!" When essentially youre doing the same thing. Both of them just increase the oxygen content inside your engine and in turn burn more fuel. I can't see how getting 100hp out of nitrous and 100hp out of a forced induction setup would be any different. Both ways, ou'll run into detonation and leaning out if you dont have enough fuel and whatnot

 

Sudox, you just said the same thing I said about NOS in the "Best bang for buck" thread.

 

doh! now I get to look like the "oh he just knows what he's read from other threads" guys Looks like I should read up threads more often, so I don;t just retype info thats already been covered...

 

O 16581 72452 5, it was only a joke. If you didnt find it funny, you didnt have to laugh. But I guess according to your sig, youre too deep in some sort of depressed state of mind to find anything funny. Gosh, I wish I could be as cool and depressed
as you someday!

 

No, i was telling him a serious tip if he put on nitrous and you came in and made an idiotic comment to it. it's not that i'm in a "depressed state of mind" no one else found your comment funny either.

 

enough of the personal attacks guys.... we're all here to help each other out, aren't we?

 

I'm not bashing on you or nothing. Its just that many people think of N2O and think it was ment to blow cars up. Your point is the same I made, that oxygen is oxygen, regardless of how it gets to the rotor.

One advantage of the juice is that it only runs when you push the button. A turbocharger stuffs more oxygen down the intake all the time. Same for a supercharger.

 

ya alright man, sorry. I suppose ppl who actually consider nitrous have heard that and others enough times over.

 

Juice is also not oxygen

it's Nitrous Oxide, meaning it has One part Oxygen for every two parts Nitrogen. The reason it gives you so much more power is 'cause it burns cleaner, hotter, and faster than gasoline, which is also why it likes to "wear out" shall we say, engines faster. Bigger explosion means more force on the rotors and seals, similar to detonation in a turbo engine... That's also why if you hit the button at a low RPM, you'll blow your engine up

 

I appologize, i've had a lousy day and very irritable at the moment.

Back to subject, i think there are much better choices you can do to a motor other than putting nitrous on it... or have you considered suspension? a great handling car can be just as fun as a fast straight line car.