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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Nice car but ....

What a price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ADME:B:SS:MT:1
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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wow it is a beautiful car but at 10g's i cant see it
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Damn and that ****** is only 45 minutes from me. Sweet SA
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Did you notice the 84-85 door panels?
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Go check it out slayer, it's gotta have some ideas for the rest of us.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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You'd think with all of the time and money he'd do something with the maroon dash???

But ya, the car is freaking hot. And not far from me too.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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If you are planning on a wide body and having the interior completely refit + the other mods, a 30k mile streetported engine (and the right hand drive is a cool novelty), I doubt you could rebuild that car for 10k unless you did every last thing yourself and spent if not thousands of hours. If thats anyones idea of exactly what they want a seven to be, 10K is a bargain in my book.

Just my 2 cents...
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Wow, nice looking, but certainly not worth 10k. By the seller's description on ebay, I would not pay more than 5k for it.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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While most of us are unwilling to pay that much for a 7, you can easily spend 2-3 times that much having the work done professionally. The top restorers for the old 'Cudas start at 100k when you bring the car to them.

I have nearly 6k in the widebody, with 200 of that being outside labor. Had I paid someone slse to install the widebody kit and a decent paint job, 6k would have been a bargin and could easily exceed 10k. I haven't even done my interior yet, other than putting some cheap vinyl I had laying around on the doors after I got tired of the bare door panels.

Whether you gents like the price or not, quality works costs money and not many people can do a full restoration on thier own. For those that don't have the time tools or talent and want a finished car, that is a bargain.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by trochoid
While most of us are unwilling to pay that much for a 7, you can easily spend 2-3 times that much having the work done professionally. The top restorers for the old 'Cudas start at 100k when you bring the car to them.

I have nearly 6k in the widebody, with 200 of that being outside labor. Had I paid someone slse to install the widebody kit and a decent paint job, 6k would have been a bargin and could easily exceed 10k. I haven't even done my interior yet, other than putting some cheap vinyl I had laying around on the doors after I got tired of the bare door panels.

Whether you gents like the price or not, quality works costs money and not many people can do a full restoration on thier own. For those that don't have the time tools or talent and want a finished car, that is a bargain.
i see where your coming from on this but im the type that takes alot pride in doing things myself. me knowing that i did something and bringing car back to life makes me feel all that much better and i apreshate* (spelling) all that much more!
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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i see where your coming from on this but im the type that takes alot pride in doing things myself. me knowing that i did something and bringing car back to life makes me feel all that much better and i apreshate* (spelling) all that much more!
I'm the same way, that's why I have only 200 in outside labor. When I started the widebody project, I didn't have all of the tools or talent that was needed. I spent and learned my way through it. Originaly I figured it would take me 3 months working on it full time. Nearly 9 months later it was on the street, and there will always be little things that will need to be completed, changed or modified. I also have a better skill set than I had before I started, along with more tools to play with.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by trochoid
While most of us are unwilling to pay that much for a 7, you can easily spend 2-3 times that much having the work done professionally. The top restorers for the old 'Cudas start at 100k when you bring the car to them.

I have nearly 6k in the widebody, with 200 of that being outside labor. Had I paid someone slse to install the widebody kit and a decent paint job, 6k would have been a bargin and could easily exceed 10k. I haven't even done my interior yet, other than putting some cheap vinyl I had laying around on the doors after I got tired of the bare door panels.

Whether you gents like the price or not, quality works costs money and not many people can do a full restoration on thier own. For those that don't have the time tools or talent and want a finished car, that is a bargain.
I concur with that.... It took me over 3 years and over 12k to restore/modify my RX.... quality work does cost money! That rare 78' RX is for sure worth more than 12K.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trochoid
While most of us are unwilling to pay that much for a 7, you can easily spend 2-3 times that much having the work done professionally. The top restorers for the old 'Cudas start at 100k when you bring the car to them.
I agree with you, however 'Cudas are a special case. Just the window glass for a 'cuda is worth more than a 1st-gen, if in good condition. Plus, the new thing for restoration isn't NOS parts, it's "lunchpail" parts... there was often a difference between OEM replacement parts (NOS) and what was actually installed on the cars. The trend is to restoration with parts actually installed on the car, purchased from people (or family of people) who worked on the assembly lines and "took home parts in their lunchpails".

At that point a $100k restoration is positively *cheap*...


But this isn't about a restoration, it's about a modified car, and modified cars just aren't worth as much as an original car, excepting rare examples. I doubt this car is worth over $10k, and frankly I'm upset that a early production '78 model was raped this way.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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yup thats where we put our most important investment.. tools!
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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dam if we were rich im sure anyone would buy it in a heart beat
ild make it a parts car
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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But this isn't about a restoration, it's about a modified car, and modified cars just aren't worth as much as an original car, excepting rare examples. I doubt this car is worth over $10k, and frankly I'm upset that a early production '78 model was raped this way.
I totally agree, this is not a restoration and is no way near original. Now a genuine 1978 in mint condition would be another matter. Interestingly the VIN is SA22C 107678.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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Yea,that car is far from historically accurate,so the 78 RHD part doesnt count for much.

And I agree,you couldnt do all that with 10K,not even close.
He did do a lot of work to it.Its got damn near everything mine has, and if I were to sell mine,Id be asking somewhere around that range....a bit higher mind you.......and no,Im not contemplating selling mine,but one does think of things like this from time to time.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Understood that you couldn't do it yourself for this type of money but you NEVER get what you put into a car back out of it. Modified cars sell for less than a very clean original would sell for.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Maybe just food for thought, maybe just for the sake of argument: Once we begin to believe that our cars are worth the value of parts and labor we put in them, then the value of our cars will go up. Modded or not, that is not the point of my arguement, the point is the effort and value of it.

I see a similiar mind set in the 2nd gen section. A pristine, well kept car doesn't command much of a price. The modded ones don't get any where near what it costs to build them, back out of them. Yet people are quite happy ******* the price on a well kept or well done car, then they go out and buy a clunker and spend 3 times the money someone was asking for a decent car, and complain/brag about how much they have put into thier's and will never get it back out of it.

Quality work and parts cost money. I am quite aware this is not the 3rd gen section. We are not that moneyed group, though I'm sure many here can afford them, but chose to play here instead. As I have stated before, we a bunch of creative tightasses. Unfortunately there sometimes seems to be a disconnect between quality/effort and value.

Many here would probably trade thier first born and a ******** for one of the factory green and white IMSA cars, which would be worth many many times the posted eBay car. Why should a decently done 1st gen have so little value, are we all just closet history buffs?

Just some food for thought ladies and gents.
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