thomascjd

i've been a 1st gen 12a owner but just picked up an 13b n/a and the motor is in peices and figure it's the best time to make more power but need to know what the best thing i should do. I know i'll be turboing it but not sure of all what i should do. I'm looking to get 400+ maybe 500 hp

pinoyremix

i don't know about 400-500 hp...i seen fb's that have a turbo 2 engine..and had an upgraded turbo.but didnt see any numbers that..high..

PercentSevenC

You're not going to make that kind of power on NA internals. I suggest you do some reading in the Single Turbo forum if you're serious.

FirebirdSlayer666

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What type of 13B is it Tom, 4 or 6 port? You want a 4 port if you hp goals are that high. Essentially porting and the right turbo/intake/exhaust will get you there. Of course you'll be paying some money for all the internals you'll need for it with seals, springs, stat gears, bearings, etc.

thomascjd

the motor is torn apart so i figured the skys the limit. it's out of an 88 by the way.

JIMMY54

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How much are you willing to spend is what it will come down to

thomascjd

trying to stay under 10 grand

Jeezus

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Will not happen. Sure, you can get a 500hp 13bt for that, but then you will need a stronger transmission.. new custom driveshaft... ford 9" rear end, bigger rims and tires, Roll cage, upgraded fuel system, upgraded exhaust, upgraded ignition, etc.


You are looking about twice that for a nice package that can handle the power and not rip itself out of the engine bay or crack your windshield in half.

A 200hp first gen is tons of fun to drive in, 500 would be insane, you would have no traction unless you had 12" slicks in the back on the highway.

thomascjd

okay then i have a 2nd gen shell it came out of and maybe 500 is high what about the 400 range?

gsl-se addict

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Personally, I would shoot for say 300HP for now. You can always go higher later. 300HP in a 1st gen is plenty fast.

Jeezus

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I am bored so I made you a list:

Basic roll bar, you will need a cage IIRC:
http://www.modacar.com/products/Mazd...Roll+Bars.html

Good luck finding a cage, I found one for 2nd gens though.

Upgraded transmission: Turbo 2 transmission
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-M...em200197171188
$300

Rebuilt 13BT:
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/index.php?pag=9
$2100-$2200
Streetported (to make that kind of power)
Add $580
http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm Part # 11401

Custom Driveshaft:
$200
Local transmission shop

Rear end:
Solid rear end from grannys speed shop
Starting at $850
http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/

Set of wheels and tires:
www.tirerack.com
$1750

Ignition system:
2 MSD 7AL boxes: 219.90 x2
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Fuel system:
Walbro 255 fuel pump:
http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...t.aspx?ID=1635
Rising Rate Regulator:
http://www.injector.com/fuelregulators.php
Anywhere from $50 to $200

Are you going carb or FI? Carb and manifold would be RB Weber 51IDA, your looking at excess of $1000 plus getting it boost prepped.

FI, look for megasquirt. That should also run you around a grand give or take.

Turbo? GT-35 will spool nicely. Maybe a 40 if you are frisky. Look for a complete turbo kit. If you are not making your own, then Buy one:

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/gr...0td06%20fc.htm

Theres another 2500+ spent.

That is just to name a few off the top of my head. I have no plans on going anywhere past 300, maybe someone with more knowledge than myself can chime in on all the knick nacks I am missing.

thomascjd

okay lets start over then. i just got an 88 n/a car really cheap and the motor is in pieces and not sure if i want to put it im my 1st gen or 2nd and really looking for big numbers. looking to put some real wrench time in this one and looking for guidance in the right direction and what kind of numbers i can expect and what to do.

Jeezus

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I think once you hit 75 posts the search button pops up.