Ocelot

A bunch of guys I know and I took a 12A and tranny out of a first gen and we are mocking up a welded frame to make sort of a go-cart type deal out of it. Well we laid out the parts and it looks more like the size of a really small car and not a go-cart, but it should still be light as all hell and pretty damn fast, but anyways, to the point. We have a 12A that was JUST rebuilt, not sure if the guy knew what he was doing or not when he did it, but we couldn't get it started before taking it out of the car, pretty dumb idea, but the guy who owned the FB wanted to put a 350 in it so we took it out. It got going for about 6 seconds before shutting off, and that was from a rolling start in reverse. The starter wasn't very powerful so we need a new one.

Anyways, the motor troubleshooting can be later, but for now i'm trying to see what crap can be removed from the motor and still have it run. Is there an emissions removal writeup anywhere? I know we'll be taking out the airpump and that type of stuff is completely not an issue. I'm looking for the absolute minimum to make it run right, preferrably a guide to emissions and that sort of removal stuff. Any info would be appreciated, thanks.

-xlr8planet-

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good luck?

Ocelot

You've been a big help....

Anyone with useful information?

rwatson5651

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do a forum search on "rat nest removal"

Ocelot

Hmm...i'm an idiot, all the info was in the FAQ, as usual. I just assumed a writeup would be in the archive section. Oh well, thanks.

Siraniko

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its not hard AS LONG AS you can read electrical diagram and come up with your own wiring and fuel system. I can help ya with the electrical but the fabrication and mounting the fuel cel would be up to you.

Ocelot

I'm actually working with a bunch of guys from a car club down at Virginia Tech, so lots of engineers helping out. We already have someone to work on the frame and he's already fabricated a fuel cell. The electrical is something I was a bit worried about, but I figured it wouldn't require much work since we are taking out most of the emissions and random stuff thats not really neccessary for the car to run. What kind of electrical stuff would be a bitch to work with? I was under the assumption that most of it would be removed and not be a problem.

Siraniko

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Its not hard to wire up the ignition (coil/dizzy), alternator, starter and fuel pump; except, you have to use lots of relays.

grantmac

If you haven't settled on a frame I'd recommend a Locost if your gonna drive it on pavement. Then you could eventually register it. I'm in the process of gathering info to build something like it with the intention of making it street legal.
Grant

John Senini

to make it run you only need power to the coil, assuming you can turn it over with the starter

Ocelot

We don't plan on having it be street legal. It would be very nice to have a street legal cart to drive around in, but we are a bunch of poor college students, so we are trying to find a welder to rent so we can make our own frame. We have one sort of planned out, and so far its not going to have any bodywork, but we might fab up some fiberglass body panels in the future if we are already extremely satisfied with the speed of this thing which I think we will be.

Feds

Suck Squeeze Bang Blow. That's all you need for the engine to run. So, fuel, alternator, spark. That's it.

nick1

"Suck Squeeze Bang Blow"

sounds like a script for a **** flick ahah ha

Siraniko

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painless kit is nice also but $$$.

Marek

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I have also conciderd doing a mockup on my own. But minium requirements are:
Fuel cell- fuel pump- I say running a differnt carb setup but you wanna be el' cheepo like all RX-7 owners out there. Go get that mazdatrix rats nest removal going. Don't Cut any wires that you think you might not need, because you will! remove the key tumbler. The bolts are torque to break so just slit them with a dremel and then you should be able to get them out with a slot. Igition you can try to keep "factory" or you can wire yourself just read abuncha the DLIDFIS threads and you will get a hang of rotary igition pretty quick. Exhaust.. its going to be loud on a cart. Stearing and drivetrain.. I say get that out of a differnt car maybe make a rearmounted engine on your cart. But first things first get the engine to run! Outside of the car. Don't forget coolent lines they are super important same with oil cooling and the fan make sure it directs the air so it sucks through the fins...
If you could make sence of any of this quick Reply nonsence then good if you cant add my email mark_biernacki@hotmail.com and we'll BS about this later.

Ocelot

All the wiring has been saved and is seperated in boxes. As far as gauges, what would we need to hook up for just a tach? I'm sure the speedometer would be useless once the car is configured, and I guess maybe we could have some other safety ones, but the tach would be the most useful. We have discussed options of a rearmounted motor, but all the options make it too expensive for us college students to buy. We are basically looking at the least amount to buy, and the most work cut out for us so we can have a good time and good learning experience putting it together. The steering I think we might fab up ourselves, but i'm not sure how thats going to work out yet.

Ocelot

Oh, and just so I get this right, basically anything on the motor that looks like vac lines and emissions stuff I can just tear off and block off the remaining stuff? Anyone have a picture of a bare minimum 12A?