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Old 11-20-11, 12:50 AM
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i saw someone post in this thread and say that there were attachment and to my dissappointment there werent any pictures of this build....
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Originally Posted by Starfox07
So...what's wrong with a streetported 13b again?
No low-end or midrange torque compared to a bridge!

And besides that... the noise gets to me, the fuel economy gets to me, the incredible rarity/expense gets to me... I have enough engine bits to put together one more, maaaybe two more engines, and all of my "suppliers" of engine parts have dried up, so to go get more, I'll be spending as much in fuel to drive out there and get it as I would be in doign an engine swap...
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Originally Posted by peejay
No low-end or midrange torque compared to a bridge!

And besides that... the noise gets to me, the fuel economy gets to me, the incredible rarity/expense gets to me... I have enough engine bits to put together one more, maaaybe two more engines, and all of my "suppliers" of engine parts have dried up, so to go get more, I'll be spending as much in fuel to drive out there and get it as I would be in doign an engine swap...
So quit blowing them up then, lol.
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Originally Posted by Directfreak
I disagree on the SR20DET though... Not that expensive, and they are swapped into
240's (S13/S14/S15 Chassis) cars all the time. It's Japan's favorite Dorifto engine.
Lot's of aftermarket support. They are RWD. They even offer a 6 speed.

Plus, it makes a nice swap.

Did you see the one in the FB?
not an sr 20 but still nissan, this would be the engine swap i would do, gotta love them:
https://www.rx7club.com/other-engine-conversions-non-v-8-118/ze-rx7-ka-ts-evolution-793638/
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Good 4 cylinder with a lot of support and tons of parts? Ecotec.

That being said a rx7 should be rotary powered.
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Since the original poster in this thread never posted pics of his project "anywhere" on the forum I say he is full of **** on all aspects of his post.

Combine that with the claim that says he is running 295/50r15 tires on the back, I say confirmed bullshit!

And don't forget the claimed "dual 3" exhaust", where the hell is that gonna fit? Cut the gas tank in half for a second muffler??

Those tires will only fit if the car is jacked up so they can stick out the under the fenders or if the car has a custom widebody.....

If I had a widebody with big tires and an LS1, you can bet your *** I would have posted a ton of pics
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Since the original poster in this thread never posted pics of his project "anywhere" on the forum I say he is full of **** on all aspects of his post.

Combine that with the claim that says he is running 295/50r15 tires on the back, I say confirmed bullshit!

And don't forget the claimed "dual 3" exhaust", where the hell is that gonna fit? Cut the gas tank in half for a second muffler??

Those tires will only fit if the car is jacked up so they can stick out the under the fenders or if the car has a custom widebody.....

If I had a widebody with big tires and an LS1, you can bet your *** I would have posted a ton of pics

Here's some of that.

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=8752
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Since the original poster in this thread never posted pics of his project "anywhere" on the forum I say he is full of **** on all aspects of his post.

Combine that with the claim that says he is running 295/50r15 tires on the back, I say confirmed bullshit!

And don't forget the claimed "dual 3" exhaust", where the hell is that gonna fit? Cut the gas tank in half for a second muffler??

Those tires will only fit if the car is jacked up so they can stick out the under the fenders or if the car has a custom widebody.....

If I had a widebody with big tires and an LS1, you can bet your *** I would have posted a ton of pics
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Old 11-26-11, 10:56 PM
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That sr20det was mine... sold it about three years ago now. Took maybe three months to do, after taking out the SBC/T5 swap, and never a problem out of it.

Would not drive a rotary 1st gen for any reason again. Great chassis but lackluster engine choices in the rotary camp.
Old 11-27-11, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Since the original poster in this thread never posted pics of his project "anywhere" on the forum I say he is full of **** on all aspects of his post.

Combine that with the claim that says he is running 295/50r15 tires on the back, I say confirmed bullshit!

And don't forget the claimed "dual 3" exhaust", where the hell is that gonna fit? Cut the gas tank in half for a second muffler??

Those tires will only fit if the car is jacked up so they can stick out the under the fenders or if the car has a custom widebody.....

If I had a widebody with big tires and an LS1, you can bet your *** I would have posted a ton of pics
There's room for dual 3" under an RX-7. very tight but it'd work.

My car runs on 215/70-15 tires on the back to cut the revs down on the highway. They fit with great ease. My competition tires are the equivalent of 225/65-15 and they only rub on the fenderwells (not the lips) because I do nutso things like slide sideways into ruts hard enough to bounce the inside tires off the ground and I don't lift.

295/50s are smaller in diameter and will fit in the fenderwell with some fender rolling, probably less rolling than I had to do to get 225/50s to fit in the front!

But, yes, he didn't post a "build thread" all over the net so therefore the car must not exist.

I don't really have a build thread either, at least none of the changes I made this year are online, I guess my car doesn't exist either. I know I posted the FC subframe on a local forum (that's gone offline - RIP ohiorotaries ) but there's nothing about my 3-link anywhere, nor my radiator/fan setup, etc.
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Originally Posted by Rotor13B
So quit blowing them up then, lol.
It's 105 degrees. Coolant temps are in the 220-230 degree range. You have two runs left and you have to leave now.

What are you going to do? Slink home with your tail between your legs and cry to your momma? Or make the runs anyway?

It's just an engine, man. Build another one or swap something else in. Better than wussing out.
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He did post the weight why would he make that up. Sr20 det would be nice swap I likejapenese cars and engines lolbut would not be able to do that for myself without a lot of time and help lol. My buddy had a 180sx dark blue with black hood sold it to buy a t2 fc from his buddy here in Calgary it was white lol his dual exhaust fell apart on a trip to bc lol loud as **** with only half an exhaust. Nissan engine into any car besides nissans reminds me of the nice misting from fast and furious haha. Let's get pics
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Originally Posted by peejay
There's room for dual 3" under an RX-7. very tight but it'd work.

My car runs on 215/70-15 tires on the back to cut the revs down on the highway. They fit with great ease. My competition tires are the equivalent of 225/65-15 and they only rub on the fenderwells (not the lips) because I do nutso things like slide sideways into ruts hard enough to bounce the inside tires off the ground and I don't lift.

295/50s are smaller in diameter and will fit in the fenderwell with some fender rolling, probably less rolling than I had to do to get 225/50s to fit in the front!

But, yes, he didn't post a "build thread" all over the net so therefore the car must not exist.

I don't really have a build thread either, at least none of the changes I made this year are online, I guess my car doesn't exist either. I know I posted the FC subframe on a local forum (that's gone offline - RIP ohiorotaries ) but there's nothing about my 3-link anywhere, nor my radiator/fan setup, etc.
Found his pics on Norotors.
naturally i would question it's validity given how many dreamers post stuff they don't have. This conversion seemed like a stretch, and since he never posted any pics it would have to come into question at some point.
I'll help him out a bit
I say it needs some modified corvette engine covers that say something unique.

And i was right about the tires, they stick way out under the fenderwells
Old 11-27-11, 05:42 PM
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I'll upload the pics here, that way people don't need to log into the other site.

First of all, I want to know how in the world some of you guys are using the Granny's mounts?????

I waited a year for Grant to send me the LS1/FB mount kit, and it was complete garbage. The engine wasn't close to lining up or sitting in the engine bay properly. The engine stuck out of the hood and leaned towards the firewall at an extreme angle. I think my mounts were made wrong, or were misplabeled and I got shipped the wrong ones. But at the time (about 3 years ago) I didn't know that bc I couldn't find anybody that had used his mounts. And he said "major sheetmetal triming required" so I was like well, okay!!

At any rate, I couldn't use them so I started from scratch and made everything myself.

Im very jealous that some of you guys have used their mounts with success!

Such a PITA with the oil pan/center link (I see some of you have cut the pan out like I did) and the gear box (because of header clearance), trying to maintain ground clearance etc, but it's all done and working now.

Car weighs 2,520 lbs with a full tank of gas and basically full interior.

Stock LS1 with custom SS longtube headers and true dual 3" exhaust with X pipe.

Rear tires are 295-50-15's, fronts are 205-50-15's.

Fuel system is a Bosch 044 custom mounted in the tank, -6 hardline to a corvette FPR.

I cut the rear fenders out to clear the tires (rubbed on suspension compression), and I'm going to flare the rear.

I'll post more pics if anybody is interested in seeing it.

The car is an absolute blast! I was hoping it would weigh a little less, but oh well! 2700lbs with driver aint too shabby!









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yeah, he is on norotors. I was going to post pics of mine if his wasnt in here. I got a LS1/T56 in a 79 gs. I fit 255's on the rear with 0 offset but they stick out about 40mm. I have the 8.8 set at the gsl-se width also.

Thanks to my robbery I had to start over on my swap and looking back and looking at his pictures, I am glad I got robbed because my engine bay is so clean now compared to before nad his.
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4 cylinders, v8's, rotaries, we're considering every n/a engine possibility except v6. They are compact, powerful, cheap, perfect for what peejay has stated he's looking for. I rather keep the rotary, put the pistons in a miata, but it does make the most sense. Think ford/yamaha sho v6, or if you want really cheap look at the gm 3800 ...
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Originally Posted by BeenJaminJames
4 cylinders, v8's, rotaries, we're considering every n/a engine possibility except v6. They are compact, powerful, cheap, perfect for what peejay has stated he's looking for. I rather keep the rotary, put the pistons in a miata, but it does make the most sense. Think ford/yamaha sho v6, or if you want really cheap look at the gm 3800 ...
why not go with the mopar 3.5 out of the intrepid? 240hp /230lb/f decent fuel efficency 6300rpm redline full aluminum construction reliable. (given not as much as the 3.8gm but still good)
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why not go with the mopar 3.5 out of the intrepid?
Want the reasons in alphabetical order, numerical order, or order of importance?
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Originally Posted by peejay
Want the reasons in alphabetical order, numerical order, or order of importance?
sure the 3.5 may not be the best but thats not the point... why havent you mentioned a v6? surely theres one that would fit your scruples
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Originally Posted by peejay
Want the reasons in alphabetical order, numerical order, or order of importance?
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lol, good luck with that. for all the work required to make nay motor work, you might as well go all the way. fyi the intre[id is fwd
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lol, good luck with that. for all the work required to make nay motor work, you might as well go all the way. fyi the intre[id is fwd
Yes, the Intrepid is front wheel drive, but unlike most, the engine is longitudinal. This makes adaptation to a RWD setup much easier. The Prowler, for example, used the same engine, backed up with a transaxle. It was later used in the 300 and Magnum, both of which are RWD.
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VQ35 anyone? I think that would be a good option...IF it fit haha.
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But for the cost of a VQ35 swap, with all the fuel injection bits, you could build one heckuva rotary. For the cost of a 12A rebuild kit, you could buy a ford 3.8, a tranny, have the driveshafts cut/welded/balanced, weld up all the motor/trans mount bracketry, and be a carb away from a running car, with torque all day long. As much as I love the rotary, big-displacement V6 swaps just make sense. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go clearance some more side seals ...
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A Mitsubishi 6G transmission may be a cheaper option for a 3.3/3.5 engine if you were that much of a masochist.

There is a V6 that I'd like... Chevy 2.8. Make decent power with one of those. Too bad they're basically impossible to find anymore.


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