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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:31 AM
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when i go to the junkyard and take intake conversion can someone list what i will take so i dont have to take so much.. I wonder if i will need the throttle cable and does the tps hook-up to the gsl-se tps sensor the plug that is .. thank you



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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:54 AM
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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Ok, it was English. didn't make any sense. But it did use words.

Answer: The Chevy 350 TPS bolts to any Hemi intake. Everyone knows that......
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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"Stewardess, I speak Jive".

I think he's asking what he needs to jack outta a junk FC for an intake swap into a -SE 13B.

Max's answer is superior.

Gregs, get something cooler to use. Something like a quote from Samuel L. Jackson's character in Pulp Fiction: "English, mother______! Do you speak it?"
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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Gregs, get something cooler to use. Something like a quote from Samuel L. Jackson's character in Pulp Fiction: "English, mother______! Do you speak it?"
there is a pic of him holding the gun with that quote on it. and its as used as a 50 year old hooker....
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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i want to take the whole intake mod set up out of 86 2nd gen and put it n my gsl-se what do i need to take off from the junkyard and will the tps hook up right and what about the throttle cable
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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are you talking upper intake only? cause the FC has 4 fuel injectors... and u will need the AFM the ECU and wiring harness... its not really worth it for a 5hp gain...
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the intake mod i want to do is the 2nd gen to first gen what do i take off the junked car. does the throttle cable fit right up and does the tps plug right in... thank you
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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How about "SEARCH"
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by riceburner1r2001
the intake mod i want to do is the 2nd gen to first gen what do i take off the junked car. does the throttle cable fit right up and does the tps plug right in... thank you
Yes the Tps will plug right into your old harness. You will use your original t/cable.
Take the LIM/UIM complete with t/body and plenum. Get the air intake hose from the t/body to the AFM. If you can get the AFM for cheap take that even though you wont be using it on the SE. You can always sell it. rx7doctor
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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i thought you had to swap the -se internals into the fc afm if you don't swap ecu's? it has been tried but never completed that i know of
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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I've done this conversion but I used an S5 manifold. You need the upper, middle, and lower intake manifolds, throttlebody, fuel rails (both of them), and the intake pipe from the afm to the tb. The tps on the S4 is the same one as the GSL-SE so it plugs right up. You will need to change the GSL-SE fuel rail and substitute it with the S4 primary rail. The SE rail will not fit underneath the S4 intake manifold. You also need to keep the secondary fuel injectors and fuel rail hooked up to this. You just don't have any plugs so the secondary injectors are just there to plug holes. If you intend to keep emissions controls, you will also need the vacuum rack since the GSL-SE rack does not fit under the S4 intake manifold. I would find a way to keep all of your stuff working but just relocate it a little. Unlike the 2nd gens, the GSL-SE ecu needs some of that small stuff to keep the car running properly. You will also need to do some custom work to the intake pipe. The GSL-SE pipe does not bolt up to the 2nd gen throttlebody and the 2nd gen pipe is too large in diameter to fit onto the SE afm. Get creative here. Your throttle cable will work fine.

It isn't a hard conversion but it isn't as straight forward as you might think it is. I never had my car running perfectly after the swap but I changed to a standalone ecu a month later anyways so it didn't matter. Good luck.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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there is a pic of him holding the gun with that quote on it. and its as used as a 50 year old hooker....
I'm sure it is, but an over-used good quote is better than that silliness you're using.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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I've done this conversion but I used an S5 manifold. You need the upper, middle, and lower intake manifolds, throttlebody, fuel rails (both of them), and the intake pipe from the afm to the tb. The tps on the S4 is the same one as the GSL-SE so it plugs right up. You will need to change the GSL-SE fuel rail and substitute it with the S4 primary rail. The SE rail will not fit underneath the S4 intake manifold. You also need to keep the secondary fuel injectors and fuel rail hooked up to this. You just don't have any plugs so the secondary injectors are just there to plug holes. If you intend to keep emissions controls, you will also need the vacuum rack since the GSL-SE rack does not fit under the S4 intake manifold. I would find a way to keep all of your stuff working but just relocate it a little. Unlike the 2nd gens, the GSL-SE ecu needs some of that small stuff to keep the car running properly. You will also need to do some custom work to the intake pipe. The GSL-SE pipe does not bolt up to the 2nd gen throttlebody and the 2nd gen pipe is too large in diameter to fit onto the SE afm. Get creative here. Your throttle cable will work fine.

It isn't a hard conversion but it isn't as straight forward as you might think it is. I never had my car running perfectly after the swap but I changed to a standalone

ecu a month later anyways so it didn't matter. Good luck.
Sorry to correct you on this. The stock fuel rail does fit underneath and the stock Se Rack/Rats nest does not have to be changed. There are needs for longer vacuum hoses. You are correct about the intake adapter. I recommend Cold air intake piping instead of adapting the S4 to the Se. One of the inner Towards the firewall oil nozzles needs to be bent slightly to clear. Will need to run the S4 omp
rod unless you are doing premix. There are modifications of the small coolant hoses from the back of the motor that goes to the thermowax valve. The most important thing on the conversion is the blocking off of the exhaust passage on the side of the motor that feeds to the ACV. Use foil paper and use either jb weld
or an exhaust sealer to fill the remaining gap or you will have a loud exhaust leak there. Recommend the exhaust sealer over the jb weld. rx7doctor
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7doctor
Sorry to correct you on this. The stock fuel rail does fit underneath and the stock Se Rack/Rats nest does not have to be changed.
Remember that I used an S5 intake manifold and not an S4. They didn't fit under mine but it was the only reference I could give. It is certainly much easier to not have to change all of that stuff.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Remember that I used an S5 intake manifold and not an S4. They didn't fit under mine but it was the only reference I could give. It is certainly much easier to not have to change all of that stuff.
Just going by your post. It states that the rail and rats nest will not fit under the S4
manifold. As you know the S4 and S5 are completley different.
You are corect if using the S5 sytem because it has short runners on it and fits totally different. rx7doctor
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