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Old 12-02-02, 09:01 AM
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intake on ebay

found this on ebay
dellorto carb and upper intake
gsl-se euro intake LOOK
Old 12-02-02, 09:43 AM
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First of all: european GSL-SE does NOT EXCIST.
There never was a GSL-SE or any other 13B powered first gen in Europe, other then a conversion, or a USA GSL-SE that was imported later on, by private people, but never by Mazda.
The intake must be a FC N/A one, as far as I can judge. I have the same one in the trunk of my daily driver (626), so I think I can be trusted on this one ;-)
FC N/A in european specs had 6 port actuators completely different then US ones. Instead of sleeves, moved by "motors" operating on pressure from the exhaust, ours are butterflies, and are operated by vacuum, from the intake manifold. Also, early N/A's are non-cat overhere.
So the pic on that ebay-page is probable a modified euro FC intake (butterflies removed). The results of removing those are rather clear. You'll get better flow, but loose some torque in the lower rpm's.
Just thought it was good to know what parts that are, before you bid...
Old 12-02-02, 11:46 AM
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Re: intake on ebay

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found this on ebay
dellorto carb and upper intake
gsl-se euro intake LOOK
Wow, how on Earth were you able to find that? Please share your search technique with the rest of us!
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yea all i ever find is that stupid fake intake $hit
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rotary emissions: What were the top trip models for 84-85 in Europe? I'm pretty sure they were 12A turbos..dunno what the model name was.

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Originally posted by Forseti
rotary emissions: What were the top trip models for 84-85 in Europe? I'm pretty sure they were 12A turbos..dunno what the model name was.

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Well, it's Rotary EMOTIONS, but apart from that: NO TURBO'S. Turbo 12A was only for Japan, although there were the Elford Turbo RX7's, and the TWR ones. But of course those aren't official Mazda cars. The top of the line 84-85 was just an 84-85 with electrical windows and power mirrors... The 84/85 cars came with 115hp (113 in Germany) 12A's overhere. No cats, though, and the exhaust system is the same as on the european early cars. The main differences are in the interior, with the square vents and stuff like that (GSL-SE like dash).
Powersteering never was an option overhere either.
The rest of th differences are: bigger gastank (smaller spare wheel/tyre), different stud pattern, bigger brakes, vents in the front valance (for the brakes) oil-water cooler, ...
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rotary emissions: You don't have any pictures of that 6 port system from there do you? I have an early Mazda drawing showing this setup but I just thought it never made it into production. A butterfly system makes far too much sense to me. Better yet do you know anyone selling that setup to do a conversion?
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I could do some pics this week, and post them, but only if I can be called ROTARY EMOTIONS again!!!
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ROTARY EMOTIONS it is!!!
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Re: Re: intake on ebay

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Wow, how on Earth were you able to find that? Please share your search technique with the rest of us!
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Maybe because he is selling it.
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Originally posted by rotary emotions
First of all: european GSL-SE does NOT EXCIST.
Maybe not in Belgium, but GSL-SE's existed out of the U.S. I have seen articles of "J"-spec SE's in Europe and Asia.

The intake says "RE-Super Injection", and it has way less Emissions controls.



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Originally posted by rotary emotions
FC N/A in european specs had 6 port actuators completely different then US ones. Instead of sleeves, moved by "motors" operating on pressure from the exhaust, ours are butterflies, and are operated by vacuum, from the intake manifold. Also, early N/A's are non-cat overhere.
So the pic on that ebay-page is probable a modified euro FC intake (butterflies removed). The results of removing those are rather clear. You'll get better flow, but loose some torque in the lower rpm's.
Just thought it was good to know what parts that are, before you bid...
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Yep, like that. And, again, those J-specs, or US-specs, are not official imports. I know several GSL-SE owners, but that doesn't mean they were ever sold new here, does it? The GSL-SE is actually a strickt US model, and the J-spec are different. Europeans had to get a car in the states, do a swap, or import a J-spec block.
I am in for the swap, BTW
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I'd love to get a hold of one of those with working actuators. I hate the damn rotating setup.
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I have one, but I still need to figure out if I'll need it for my project or not... (13B N/A modified to turbo)
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That manifold on eBay looks like someone ground off the actuators then patched up the backs of the secondary runners.
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#1 yep im selling it...for a friend...#2 its not a welded intake and its not the kind with the butterflys... it has no 5th and 6 port crap at all look at the pics CLOSE and compare them to the pics you postedthe arent the same. This is the ONLY lower i have ever seen like this...but a friend told me that they had them over in the chek. rep. like that.....
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