blwfly

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iv jotted down of list of things i need

0-4" micrometer's
1 1/2-2 2-3 telescoping gauges "which i just picked up a set"
dial calipar
1" dial indicator on magnetic base with accuracey to 0.0001"
machinest ruler
magnafying glass
1 1/2 thousanths feeler gauges

whats on this list i dont need and what have i missed out on
also ild like to know where i can buy all this stuff reltivly cheap since iv found micrometers ranging from 600$ to 30$

any help would be mint thanks and merrychristmas

blwfly

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no one know's where to buy these tools??

broke7

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don't forget a flywheel socket

Sgt.Stinkfist

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i just picked up a set of 3 micrometers(0"-1", 1"-2", and 2"-3") and ordered a bore guage from the Matco tool guy that comes around my work(all his mic's are made by Centech, and range from $100-$500). ive also bought a metric feeler guage set(1.00mm-.04mm) from him a while back. try not to go too cheap with these measuring devices, for when youre dealing w/ accuracies of ten thousandth of an inch, quality does matter, and make sure whichever micrometers you buy have master guages. I still need a certified staitedge(or ill just have my buddy machine one for me), a runout indicater, and a dial caliper(measure seal protrusion).i think thats bout all is really needed for measuring tools. hope this helps

blwfly

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thanks the telescoping gauges i picked up are centech and seem to be very nice quality
no local stores carry any of my listed tools

and thanks i forgot about the straight edge thats a must to

and broke7 cheers for the input but i have all tools needed for tear down and reasembley
just need inspection tools as i have torn down 5 engines and need to sort out best to crap..

Blake

For standard machinist-type equipment, like measuring tools, Enco is a good source. Anything you can think of, they will have, apart from rotary engine-specific tools. http://use-enco.com. Be sure to add a precision straight-edge, with which you will measure plate warpage. If you want, you can skip the dial indicator with magnetic base and use feeler gauges for both stepwear and endplay. We don't just use any dial indicator, but a special Mazda tool, but it is not absolutely essential for the DIY builder. If you want one I can find out how much it is (we bought ours over 20 years ago, so I can't even ballpark guess). I don't expect it will be cheap, though. I don't see a torque wrench on your list, so I presume you have one or two already. A pilot bearing puller would also be nice to have. We sell those for $99. You should have some emry cloth sand paper on hand to clearance seals. That's about all I can think of at the moment. Keep in mind that the quality of the readings will depend more on the user than the tool, in many cases. Buy quality tools wherever possible but always know how to use them properly for consistent accurate and precise results.

We have been publishing how-to videos relating to engine building tasks every week for the last couple months. You can view them for free on Rotary Engine Illustrated. We shot a couple videos just before the holidays that are not yet posted, but look for one on measuring side housings (aka "plates") in the next few days, I believe. We already have one up on inspecting rotor housings.

blwfly

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thanks i do have a pittsburgh torque wrench also a pilot bearing puller
ill check out the site u posted

jarath

My local Lowes had a decent dial caliper that has worked great for me.

Blake

BTW, if you want to know what the SST (Special Service Tool) for measuring plate wear looks like, this is it:



It is technically called a pinion height tool, but it has been used to measure plates since the begining of recorded time. Mazda PN 49 0727 570. Again, I don't have any clue what the current price is, but I can find out tomorrow when my Mazda contact gets back from vacation. Whatever it is, I can offer it for about 15% under retail, if anyone is interested. To use it, you first zero the dial on a precision flat granite slab, then place the base on a non-wear surface, like the inner ring around the e-shaft or the part of the plate under the rotor housings and check the variations in the surface from side seal, corner seal and oil seal wear. The specs are in the manual and also mentioned in the weekly how-to video I mentioned (when it gets posted).

Blake

In addition to a standard torque wrench, you might also want a big-*** (24 inch or so) beam-type for the front pully hub bolt. For the flywheel nut torquing, we use a 3-foot wrench and use our weight to calculate the distance out we need to place our full weight to get the right torque (e.g. 150 lbs at 2 feet, 4 inches is 350 ft lbs). For a pilot bearing puller, is it the Mazda factory tool? That sucker is pricy but worth its weight in gold. We also did a video on pulling a pilot bearing, if that helps.

blwfly

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i just looked at ya videos pretty cool what u are doing...

nah its just a crappy one from autozone i filled the tabs down so i could hook behind the bearing. it dose the job i have done a pb change 4 months ago but sadly that e shaft is no use lol the rotor bearing was welded to the eshaft..due lack of internal oiling i guess
and a **** load of abuse

when i put the flywheel nut on the threads were toast from a previous clutch changer..
i used my 3/4 impact gun rated for 400ftp and i guess that did the trick.. i hadno problems refering to this the whole time driving


i apreciate ur input blake
and that site u gave me is wicked has every knick knack out

Blake

Just got the pricing on the special tools, in case you are interested. The fancy gauge for measuring step wear is $399 (yeah, not a typo). I can sell the main bearing press tool for $79 and the rotor bearing press tool for $99. I can also get the really nice flywheel nut wrench, as seen in the factory manual, for $165. These are special order parts so it takes about a week to get them, but they are brand new Mazda Special Service Tools and definitely worth the money if you plan to use them more than a couple times. I am in the process of uploading them to our web site right now...

http://www.pineappleracing.com/index...TS&Category=20

sevensix

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is the mazda corner seal tool the recommended way to check corner seal groove wear? i don't see it for sale on pineapple racing or any discussion on how else to measure the groove wear

Blake

That's because you can't buy them anymore. The tool is even shown and listed in the RENESIS engine manual, but my source can't find them. We have one from the old days but it's not for sale.