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Old 12-31-07, 05:24 PM
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Not to burst everyones already twisted bubble, but think about this your sticking a 1/2 inch metal pin into a 1 inch thick piece of rubber then your going to keep that in place with rubber cement????????

Am i the only one who thinks that wont hold 2,000 pounds once it hits solid ice??

Thanks to the brain trust here but i think the more commone idea in ice racing is low pressure with some blizzarks thats what im getting.
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no_name Ice racing destorys cars really really good. If you plan to ice race a car, make sure its a pos because it will be lumpy has hell at the end of the day.
does it need to be a POS....no.

should it be your mint 1st gen. probably not.

On the good side ice racing will only cosmetically destroy your car if you are on a lake......what is there to hit.

The only thing you can do is hit a snow bank and im sure those of us in winter places have done that anyways. Speeds are way slower and its a ton of fun

For studding your tires bring em to a tire shop, its like 80 bucks (here in canada) and they are proper tire studs.... best way to go fo sho
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Found a video so you guys can see what i mean about the sideways aspect of the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DzQiCpsNPE
Old 12-31-07, 05:55 PM
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sorry double post

Not to burst everyones already twisted bubble, but think about this your sticking a 1/2 inch metal pin into a 1 inch thick piece of rubber then your going to keep that in place with rubber cement????????

Am i the only one who thinks that wont hold 2,000 pounds once it hits solid ice??

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One of the few yes.... Most ice racers have a set of "ice wheels/tires" that are studded, granted usually dont professionally, but it is a small stuf so maybe 4mm sticks out so the rubber is still on contact along with the studs.

VERY useful for extra grip. Just be aware in most places they are not road legal so you wanna have an extra set of wheels for Daily driving but this is what all professionals use as well.
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do you have your sway bar on there?

It almost seems like you are trying to drift it in the video....hard accel immediately after the apex (hard to tell from vid angle) usually = drift a bit
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Originally Posted by Man_in_black49464
Found a video so you guys can see what i mean about the sideways aspect of the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DzQiCpsNPE
You were right Nick, I should have taken the time to make sure that your best run was first on that video, rather than your worst run... Too much of a damn hurry to get it done while I had the chance. Sorry bro...
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What motor is in your car at that even Nick?
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a fresh motor with 50k on it.
Old 01-05-08, 03:51 PM
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I know with dirt bikes all you have to do is buy a box of sheet metal screws and drill them into every tread know, and vuola you're ready to hit the lakes.
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Here they use 1/4" bolts that are beveled to a point and held in place with a "T" nut. You shave a bias ply tire smooth before studding and seal the studs from the inside. The tire has to be shaved or the studding doesn't work correctly, you won't get the grip you need. If done correctly the grip is unreal. I remember the first time I drove a full race stud car, 100 mph down the straight, hammer on the brakes, get her sideways for the corner, grab some gears and pin the throttle. There's nothing like it, it's a total rush as the whole time your thinking, I'm going way too fast!
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Originally Posted by Man_in_black49464
a fresh motor with 50k on it.
aha, hey how many motors have you put together? I might need someone to hold my hand through the process whenever i get off my *** and get motivated to put together a project i have bouncing around in my head.
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I have one that i just finished its kinda a prototype but it should work great. anytime man
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