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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Ice Racing.

In my area there are a lot of lakes that freeze over and you can drive on them, also the local race club as had these events in the past.

I kinda wanna try this but i have a hard time keeping my car straight on dry pavement let alone ice.

Any tips ideas or comments please!
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Nick, you crack me up! Damn it is cold here, lol. Put some chains and spikes on those tires, i dunno
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Get snow studded and spiked tires like they do with those open-wheel buggies.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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or the cheap way, put screws through the tire from ther inside and seal it with rubber cement. get screws that barely stick though the tread when screwed down
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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^ does that work?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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^ does that work?
are you really willing to put screws in your tire to find out?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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^^hell why not LOL!!
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Buy a set of used winter tires and stud them yourself, you'll need some pretty sturdy screws otherwise the ice will rip them apart or bend them. however they probably require a specific type of stud, so check with the group first. Otherwise just make sure your car is in good running order before trying it. Although if you have a hard time with pavement you may want to invest ina driving school before you go racing.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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Haha, no i am not gonna try it, but these guys did!

http://www.rallynotes.com/archives/wp-date/2004/01/
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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I've no useful information, but I did read in some Grassroots Motorsports than an FB won some ice racing series up in Wisconsin or Minnesota
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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I saw some guys ice racing there motorcycles at a lake about a mile from me and it was a trip! They had those bikes almost laid down around the corners and were getting hella grip with the spiked tread.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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This is my first winter in snow Country. I only have the stock Dunlop Sport tires on the Se and have found that the car is very forgiving. Meaning that if it starts to slide I just let off of the gas and let the car straighten it's self out. As far as trying to get out of any ruts that's a whole different story. Looks like its time to get bags of sand for the hatch area. :-)
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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What state do you reside in now doc?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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In a place that you don't want to be in.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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friggin golf or football kleet inserts work like a charm
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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did anybody even read the link i put up?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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What state do you reside in now doc?

Central Oregon Mike. Problem with the roads here is that they don't salt like they do back East. A friend of mine that lives here grew up in Buffalo NY. He told me that the roads are much slicker here than Buffalo. They spray some chemical base down to help but only in certain places plus they put rock down. But they don't plow all of the roads on a regular basis except the main highway.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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A buddy of mine ran his 82 through a couple Colorado winters using 4 good snow tires. Can't remember what they were, but he said he had no trouble.
My club will be staging ice autocrosses this winter (pending safe ice).
We have a variety of classes, studded and bare tires. Patience is a very important thing to have with those bare tires.
A friend with a Miata does very well using bare snow tires. Quicker than some of the cars running only a pair of studded tires. A word of caution about adding screws (unlikely though it may be). If you go the easy/cheap way, screwing sheetmetal screws into the tread be careful! Then tend to come out, so you may fling them around the surface.
The midwest/eastern racers may have advice on keeping them in the tires.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mikewoodkozar
did anybody even read the link i put up?
i actually did. the bolts do seem like the best thing you can do. i just cant picture an FB as being a good ice racing car. of course i wouldnt suspect the neon in that link either.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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You would be surprised about the neons they actually make pretty decent road course cars
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Except at the end of the day you have to drive a pos neon home... no thanks...
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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I couldnt agree more, its not for me, lol. But they do have quite a following
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Ice racing destorys cars really really good. If you plan to ice race a car, make sure its a pos because it will be lumpy has hell at the end of the day.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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lol, good to know, i am keeping mine in the garage
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mikewoodkozar
I couldnt agree more, its not for me, lol. But they do have quite a following
Yeah, its scary how many people like those things, its about as bad as the guys who "build" their cavaliers/sunbirds......
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