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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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I must be stupid or something

because I cannot get this damn intake manifold off! I got the top two bolts, and the lower two. It jiggles around a little bit, but it seems like there is another bolt on the back side of it? it is letting out a little coolant too. Sometimes I hate this car.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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there is 2 more nuts near the center lower. Total of 6 4 bolts 2 nuts.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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there is 2 more nuts near the center lower. Total of 6 4 bolts 2 nuts.
then I think I have a stripped nut

Any ideas on how to get it off?
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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is it a bolt or nut?

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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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then I think I have a stripped nut

Any ideas on how to get it off?
are you saying you stripped the threads or did you round the corners off of it?
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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are you saying you stripped the threads or did you round the corners off of it?
rounded the corners
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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nut spliter or get a dreimel and cut it off then replace the stud or use a bolt. I just use a bolt.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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This car is driving me insane. I finally got the bolt off, and when the manifold came off, so did one of the coolant O rings, the one on the right. Apparently this one is about 1mm too big and it wont go back in. it wont even seat. so i check the clearance on the manifold, BAM! it wont fit, just my luck. the air pump is in the way. So what this means is that i have to take it off, and make a block off plate for it, then get that lawnmower belt. but I cant run the car stockexhaust with no air pump right? so i will need a header too. OUFGYVYVLIFYLTDOYTFDYGF(&@ aaaaah this car aggrevates me, it has sucked all my money away for the past 2 months and I have nothing to show for it. manifold that wont bolt on the car without removing the air pump, attaching a carb that has the wrong jets on it, the throttle linkage is on the wrong side. wait, the throttle linkage is wrong PERIOD.

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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Dont fret, it will all work out.
You dont need a header, you just need a piece of straight pipe in place of the cats.
I have run cars without any extra belts once the airpump was removed and had no problems, just use some belt dressing and you shouldnt have any slippage.

Also, you dont need any blockoff plates for the airpump. Once your new manifold is on, there is no ACV anyway. Simply pull it off and your done.

You dont want to reuse the old coolant O-rings anyway. Head down to the local mazda dealer, they are all of 2 dollars or something, and they should be in stock ready for you.

As for the carb, often aftermarket carbs have the australian style linkages, so it often takes a bit of modifying to hook them up. Take your time and look at the linkages, Im sure you can contrapt something with a bit of thought.
Dont worry about jetting, get it together and see how it runs. Chances are you will be able to get the car out in the meantime unless they are really out of whack. Then listen to the folk on this forum and you should be able to get yourself the optimal jets.

Just remember, its all fun and games. Youll iron everything out in time.
I have experienced the same frustration, and now have come to expect it. Dont let it bother you, in the end you will have much more pride in your car, and it will have soul. Haha just remember where you are, herein lies the answer to all your problems!!

Good luck mang!
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen1onr
Dont fret, it will all work out.
You dont need a header, you just need a piece of straight pipe in place of the cats.
I have run cars without any extra belts once the airpump was removed and had no problems, just use some belt dressing and you shouldnt have any slippage.

Also, you dont need any blockoff plates for the airpump. Once your new manifold is on, there is no ACV anyway. Simply pull it off and your done.

You dont want to reuse the old coolant O-rings anyway. Head down to the local mazda dealer, they are all of 2 dollars or something, and they should be in stock ready for you.

As for the carb, often aftermarket carbs have the australian style linkages, so it often takes a bit of modifying to hook them up. Take your time and look at the linkages, Im sure you can contrapt something with a bit of thought.
Dont worry about jetting, get it together and see how it runs. Chances are you will be able to get the car out in the meantime unless they are really out of whack. Then listen to the folk on this forum and you should be able to get yourself the optimal jets.

Just remember, its all fun and games. Youll iron everything out in time.
I have experienced the same frustration, and now have come to expect it. Dont let it bother you, in the end you will have much more pride in your car, and it will have soul. Haha just remember where you are, herein lies the answer to all your problems!!

Good luck mang!
Thanks man. I just dont want to come off as the guy who asks a lot of questions on here... it makes me look and feel stupid. I wish there was a huge picture of an engine bay, with lines drawn to all the parts saying what they are. THAT would be a huge help. I may get on to that when I am done.

So if I take my air pump off, what do I do about the belt situation?
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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you can still run around just fine without having the little belt on there.


its's just to prevent slippage at high-rpm
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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if you get rid of the air pump you just need to get smaller belts, if your alt will not adjust the slack out. I ended up takeing off the air pump and air cond. on my car and just have a dual pulley setup and got smaller diameter belts to match.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by robs_seven
if you get rid of the air pump you just need to get smaller belts, if your alt will not adjust the slack out. I ended up takeing off the air pump and air cond. on my car and just have a dual pulley setup and got smaller diameter belts to match.
smaller belts as in yoohoo? If what I am getting is correct, the AC and air pump are on the same belt?

EDIT: Sorry I couldnt make it out today, as you can probably tell, I have been trying to work on the car all day :p
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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sorry was not thinking. yeah it has been a long day up here with the 7 too. im in some what of the same boat with 79. i finally got the carb some what tuned, not perfect but it cranks.

so you trying to keep the air cond? if not then pull the ac and the air pump off and dont worry about the belts
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Just one smaller belt is fine. I believe the size is in the rats nest tutorial, and if not I can go measure one for you.

I find that if you apply belt dressing once and a while, a single belt will not slip..even at high rpm.
Let me know if you need the size on the belt.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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1 belt---- Bad idea. Just save about 40 bucks for a duel alt pulley. Remove the air pump. I have a Racing Beat Header that I can hook you up with. The stock alt belt will fit. With the duel pulley, you just need two. As far as the AC goes, you will need to remove the belt from it first to gain access to the other two. The first belt behind the AC belt, is the one that goes around the crank, water pump, then the air pump. The last belt is the one that goes around the crank, water pump, and alt. Don't sweat it! I can hook you up!
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