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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Hydrogen Powered 1st Gen

Got the new Road and Track magazine yesterday........

Anyhoot.........there is an article in there showing the RX8 with Hydrogen fuel.........They say the rotary engine is a good match..........

So.........our cars should be a good fit as well.........They say all it takes a couple of extra holes
in the rotary housing, incorporate a delivery system, and reprogram the timing.....and storage area for the hydrogen fuel....

This would be cool ..............flip a switch to go hydrogen and pass California Smog.........Flip a switch..............and its back to Zoom Zoom................

I think Mazda should look into a retro fit for older rotaries as well as new cars.............

Priceless.....
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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only problem is that hydrogen is very hard to store, and it's pretty unstable... imagine getting in an accident?

*Boom*
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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So there new logo wil be

Boom Boom Boom...............
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by jimtesla
So there new logo wil be

Boom Boom Boom...............
hey boom boom booooom , hey boom boom

hahaah
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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don't **** me off or i'll hit you! lol
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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hey boom boom booooom , hey boom boom

hahaah
i belive that would be YEAH not HEY
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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Ever heard of the Hindenburg.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 06:09 AM
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Perhaps retrofitting is not such a good idea. Just look at all the ignorance here.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah, but I like the idea of using it just for emissions. Put it in a little NOS bottle and keep it on the floor, test, pass it on to a friend. Yeah, it's an alternate fuel vehicle officer..... You could even use the HOV lane, at least here in Atlanta.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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You guys don't know much about hydrogen.. it is not unstable.. and not that dangerous..


Since it is lighter then air it is actually much more safe then gasoline.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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yes, but hydrogen in vehicles has to be stored in liquid form, otherwise it takes up way too much space... it has to be compressed so it liquifies. That stuff is unstable. That's that main reason it's not on all the vehicles right now. Transporting/Filling is a pain, and it's dangerous. I read it in a magazine somewhere

It's the same as propane. When propane becomes a gas (once it's uncompressed in the mixer), it expands 45x or so... therefore, stored in a liquid, it takes up 45x less space, so you can actually go more than 6 kilometers on a tank Hydrogen has to be compressed really heavily to remain liquid (keep it cool and/or *higher pressure = higher boiling point*)

If you stored enough hydrogen in gaseous form, you wouldn't be able to drive very far without a HUGE gas tank. Hydrogen also has a lower flashpoint than gasoline, which in my opinion makes it more dangerous for use in vehicles...


Read this for a better explanation of what I'm trying to say.

http://www.alumni.ca/~kaush3k/HydroCars.htm

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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Hydrogen can also be stored as hydrides, and released with a little heat. I believe the storage density can be greater in hydrides than in cryogenic H.

Hindenberg was coated with a very flammable paint and was probably sabotaged. In any case, the people who died either were burned from the engine deisel fuel fire or by leaping from high altitude. The hydrogen in the bag went upwards and the H fire was above the bag. Many people waited for the Hindenberg to descend to the ground, then they walked away.

Overall, H is safer than gasoline.

A few guys around here have converted IC engines to hydrogen and the main problem seems to be tuning: they run rough and backfire a lot. But this is mainly backyard-mechanic stuff. A real engineer oughta be able to make them run right, especially with modern electronic ignition controls.

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