how much power from stock internals
07-14-02, 11:03 PM
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My head hurts lol.
Should we all throw convention to the wind then? Believe the backyard tunners that claim to get 160+ out of little stockport 12A's when the pros cant? Nope, I aint buying any of it... 150hp, at the flywheel (a nice round number, it's probably less). For me, that's the max until somebody proves me otherwise. Maybe if someone throws tens of thousands of dollars into his project, he might get his engine to register an extra 10hp on a "magic dyno" (see, I've been paying attention to REVHED
wether the engine is actually driveable in that state of tune is another story), but that's about all I'm ready to believe at this point.
Should we all throw convention to the wind then? Believe the backyard tunners that claim to get 160+ out of little stockport 12A's when the pros cant? Nope, I aint buying any of it... 150hp, at the flywheel (a nice round number, it's probably less). For me, that's the max until somebody proves me otherwise. Maybe if someone throws tens of thousands of dollars into his project, he might get his engine to register an extra 10hp on a "magic dyno" (see, I've been paying attention to REVHED
wether the engine is actually driveable in that state of tune is another story), but that's about all I'm ready to believe at this point.
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07-14-02, 11:26 PM
#127
Boy this thread went nowhere. If anyone out there is making more than 150 flywheel hp with stock porting, normally aspirated, get it on the dyno and show all of us the dyno slip. Brink the slip and the car it to Seven Stock 5 so we can all say "we're not worthy!"
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07-14-02, 11:53 PM
#128
Originally posted by Sterling
Directfreak has that "selective" sense of humour...He can dish it out real well, but when I joked around with him earlier this season, he could'nt figure out I was messin with him. I had to PM him to 'clear the air'.
Too easy to **** off.
Directfreak, I love you, man!
Directfreak has that "selective" sense of humour...He can dish it out real well, but when I joked around with him earlier this season, he could'nt figure out I was messin with him. I had to PM him to 'clear the air'.
Too easy to **** off.
Directfreak, I love you, man!
07-15-02, 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by RXcetera
To clear some things up... I dont beleive powersteering was available on any 12A 1st gen and yes the leather seats and door panels DO weigh alot more than the cloth.
To clear some things up... I dont beleive powersteering was available on any 12A 1st gen and yes the leather seats and door panels DO weigh alot more than the cloth.
. The leather bit is fo sho true though 
07-15-02, 10:03 PM
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I very strongly object to Directfreak's carton on 'retarded' people. Its a degrading description of a person with a mental disability which went out of professional use long before the RX-7 was thought of.
Should I call Directfreak retarded because he has not the IQ to be a top lawyer who can afford a souped-up Gen 3 rather than the ancient Gen 1?
I work with People with a Disability at the Olympic and community sport level. They win, and have fun, because they train hard and reach their full potential.
Perhaps Directfreak should try wheelchair basketball, or ski down hill with one leg tied up behind to see what obstacles are overcome with determination.
This thread has gone on far too long, the first few posts to well responded to the question. To sum up:-
1. The average 12a engine has the potential to have a maximum 150hp SAE output at the flywheel. This will require a modified carb, good header/exhaust, K&N filter minor changes such as dump the ac and air pump, and some hours of fine tuning as no engine is the same.
2. A hand built engine can be optimised to give top end power and a genuine guru may get another 10%.
3. Don,t believe personal views from self-claimed 'experts', be beware of dyno results as different machines and pressure/temperature variations give plus or minus 10%.
But then I must be retarded because I prefer to drive a 1984 convertible RX-7 over my latest Skyline R34 25GT.t - perhaps because Nissan don't do a Sunrise Red!
Should I call Directfreak retarded because he has not the IQ to be a top lawyer who can afford a souped-up Gen 3 rather than the ancient Gen 1?
I work with People with a Disability at the Olympic and community sport level. They win, and have fun, because they train hard and reach their full potential.
Perhaps Directfreak should try wheelchair basketball, or ski down hill with one leg tied up behind to see what obstacles are overcome with determination.
This thread has gone on far too long, the first few posts to well responded to the question. To sum up:-
1. The average 12a engine has the potential to have a maximum 150hp SAE output at the flywheel. This will require a modified carb, good header/exhaust, K&N filter minor changes such as dump the ac and air pump, and some hours of fine tuning as no engine is the same.
2. A hand built engine can be optimised to give top end power and a genuine guru may get another 10%.
3. Don,t believe personal views from self-claimed 'experts', be beware of dyno results as different machines and pressure/temperature variations give plus or minus 10%.
But then I must be retarded because I prefer to drive a 1984 convertible RX-7 over my latest Skyline R34 25GT.t - perhaps because Nissan don't do a Sunrise Red!
07-15-02, 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by Paul Fitzwarryne
1. The average 12a engine has the potential to have a maximum 150hp SAE output at the flywheel. This will require a modified carb, good header/exhaust, K&N filter minor changes such as dump the ac and air pump, and some hours of fine tuning as no engine is the same.
2. A hand built engine can be optimised to give top end power and a genuine guru may get another 10%.
3. Don,t believe personal views from self-claimed 'experts', be beware of dyno results as different machines and pressure/temperature variations give plus or minus 10%.
1. The average 12a engine has the potential to have a maximum 150hp SAE output at the flywheel. This will require a modified carb, good header/exhaust, K&N filter minor changes such as dump the ac and air pump, and some hours of fine tuning as no engine is the same.
2. A hand built engine can be optimised to give top end power and a genuine guru may get another 10%.
3. Don,t believe personal views from self-claimed 'experts', be beware of dyno results as different machines and pressure/temperature variations give plus or minus 10%.
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