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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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I have less than $2000 in mine and it should go tens Went 121mph in the 1/4 on crappy street tires. And that is with a driver inculded weight of 2700#. (full interior, roll bar, 8.8" ford rearend and my heavy 220# ***)

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on a junkyard motor!
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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anyone mention a spoiler?
Lol, thats good stuff.

Oh, and fitzwarryne, he isnt talking abot hustling at the track. He is talking about racing the stupid little ricers running around his neighborhood. He specifically said STREET RACES. Last I checked, that referred to racing people on roads, not the strip.

Oh, and the ultimate sleeper would not be an FB it would be the 12 second Mini-Van complete with soccer ball in the rear window. Look it up on Kazza or whatever you use to download, its some funny ****!
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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something like if i was racing a 14sec motor i would just run tons slower so i would just always be a sec faster so it wouldn't blow the cover...
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by CheddaKing
Oh, and the ultimate sleeper would not be an FB it would be the 12 second Mini-Van complete with soccer ball in the rear window. Look it up on Kazza or whatever you use to download, its some funny ****!
Either that or look up "kcar vs supra", its a Dodge Aries or some crap running like 10.5 or something rediculous.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by fitzwarryne
In order to achieve 10-10.5 second runs you are looking at 350-400rwhp with 20psi plus from the turbo. There are not many drivers who can well handle this amount of power. they usually start with a 14 second car and learn their skills the hard way.
I've determined that if you get the car down to 1800lbs with driver, and use some nice slicks, you only need 270rwhp to crack into the high 10's with a good driver Granted that is a perfect run... but still, if you gut the hell outta the car, you can get very low 1/4 mile times with a lot less horsepower.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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I sold my car for 20kAUS with an engine that would run high 10s no problem
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 04:09 AM
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12 sec should be very good on the street, and with that, you even have room to sandbag others.

you don't blew by someone on street races!!, you take them a bumper or fender at a time.

btw, they'll here your BOV so that's not a very good sleeper, how recirculating valve instead?

- T3/t4 is too small, T5+ at least and use NOS to get it up to speed for the turbo, wet NOS too (direct port injection, is it doablt on rotory?)
- easier to do one for the strip cuz you'll need some serious bracing on the chessis/body, no? trailer bitch atleast you'll have a roll cage and no need for brakes
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by terencet
- T3/t4 is too small, T5+ at least


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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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I have a T293847923892834/T834598598395793475 hybrid and it rocks
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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cheapo solution is to get the junkyard 12A, rebuild it with a home-ground big streetport, replace apex seals with new 3MM (2nd most expensive purchase...) cast iron apex seals, cobble a port injection nitrous set-up off of eBay, get a progressive nitrous controller from Jacobs or NOS (the most expensive purchase...), get the mandatory fuel pump and regulator from Mallory and Mallory alone....., have the carb rebuilt by carl or sterling for max flow since it has to look stock, and then weld the diff and axles together in the back...the launch will be relatively easy and then the controller will lay down the 250 shot as you go down the street right into the allegedly "innocent" bystanders who should know better, curse those pesky 12 yr.olds....

Since the goal is cheap, easy profitable kills, losing a junkyard engine every two or three passes shouldn't be a problem for the dedicated street racer...

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Yea.. a good compression motor, ANY rotary... A good carb set-up, and a fatty shot of NOS... big time weight reduction but still maintain a stock apperance on the surface... = very fast car.

Very fast car = blown trannies, rearends, and motors.

Expensive considering it's just a hobby... but totally affordable.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by terencet

- T3/t4 is too small, T5+ at least
Welcome to the board, please don't answer when you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Eville140
I have less than $2000 in mine and it should go tens Went 121mph in the 1/4 on crappy street tires. And that is with a driver inculded weight of 2700#. (full interior, roll bar, 8.8" ford rearend and my heavy 220# ***)

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Yeah...2.3T's are even cheaper to make big power on than 5.0's. Is there somewhere you listed your mods to the 2.3? I haven't seen it, if so. Maybe on TC.com - or turboford?
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by 85TIIDEVIL

Yea.. a good compression motor, ANY rotary... A good carb set-up, and a fatty shot of NOS... big time weight reduction but still maintain a stock apperance on the surface... = very fast car.

Very fast car = blown trannies, rearends, and motors.

Expensive considering it's just a hobby... but totally affordable.
The welded rear won't blow (Unless you run big slicks, then the axles will snap...but it's supposed to look stock, right??) and the progressive controller will save the tranny....the junkyard engine will always be a goner by the fourth pass...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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i know a guy who has a 9 sec all motor 1st gen with a 13b pullin nines and he builds rotarys he only said he would charge me 3000 to be pullin low 11's high 10's
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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He's only selling you the engine that might be capable of those times...you'll have to spend that much again, at least, for everything else that can put that kind of power to the ground and survive. Plus you'll never know for sure of 11s or 10s until you take it to the track, and then you'll only get one pass and the track will tell you what has to be done for safety if it ever intends to see a track again with those kinds of times...

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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If you want the ultimate sleeper, get a stickshift minivan. My friends dad got an old ford stick shift minivan with a v8 in it. Its all crappy and has little exhaust and ****. It held its own against a new sunfire. It lost, but it didnt lose that badly. Take a stickshift minivan and mod it and u could win quite a bit. Its gotta be stickshift thou
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