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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:18 AM
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Hinged front license plate ... unless you guys have a better idea

Well after being pulled over 3 times now for my front license plate not being visible enough for the po po to see, I have to come up with some new creative way to mount it. I have a mariah front bumper, and currently have the license plate zip tied to the front brace bar I think its called.

My biggest concern is being too much in the way that its going to block the air flow too much. So putting on my thinking hat, I think if I put on a hinge or two as I drive it'll flip up on its own and give me more air flow. What do you guys think? If not so good, what do you guys recommend?
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Old May 14, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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Hmm..... I don't know, I don't have to run a front plate.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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If they don't see a license plate when your driving they'll pull you over. Regardless of whatever transporter like system you got. If you can make a bracket making it sit a little higher it won't block the airflow as much.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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no need for front plates here. i'm sure u'll come up with a creative solution. if ur not running driving/fog lights, maybe u can mount it off center.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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A friend has that style bumper and has his plate hinged, it folds up when driving and then drops down when you slow or stop. I have the same bumper coming and i'm going to hinge the damn plate as well. F**k the man, but yes it must visible while driving.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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i kept getting pulled over in my womans caliber for the same thing and i just put some double sided tape and put it on the car. seems to work fine.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Whats with you guys not neading a front plate thats wierd. In Ct its against the law for u to have it hidden or not clearly visible. I had mine in the car so u can see it thru the windshield on the passengers side and got a written warning from the fuzz. But i kept it there doesnt mater now its not registerd ne more and wont be till im done with goin boost
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CHiNO84gsl
Whats with you guys not neading a front plate thats wierd.
quite a few states only require a rear plate. no front needed.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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I'm not sure if the hinged setup will satisfy any cop that doesn't see it while you're driving. Makes it arguable; if it's not "visible while driving" it'll be up to them if they decide to stop and cite you.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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As far as I understand, California requires you need a front plate ONLY if the vehicle has provisions for it. My Seven never had a front plate on it and I never had any issues with it, also my Blazer lack a front plate also and the only thing I got nailed for was not having a rear plate at the time when I was building my rear bumper.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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I guess so i was talkin to my cuzin who just moved back to Fl and he said they dont even get front plates for theyr cars down there i found that odd?
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Old May 14, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Just had to put mine on recently.. cops giving too much **** for it being in the front windshield.

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Old May 14, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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SC, NC, GA, TN, hell probably all south east states don't require front plates whether there's a mount for one or not.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Arizona - no front plate required.

We can always tell the CA guys that move here, because they actually have front plates when nobody else does.

Also, ADOT doesn't even send you 2 plates anymore - cost saving measure for the state budgets. No complaints from me - it just gets in the airflow at the worst possible place, anyway.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DemonSpawn67
As far as I understand, California requires you need a front plate ONLY if the vehicle has provisions for it.
Sadly, this is not the case:

Display of License Plates
5200. (a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear.

(b) When only one license plate is issued for use upon a vehicle, it shall be attached to the rear thereof , unless the license plate is issued for use upon a truck tractor, in which case the license plate shall be displayed in accordance with Section 4850.5.
Amended Sec. 27, Ch. 594, Stats. 2003. Effective January 1, 2004.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5200.htm

Enforcement is spotty and varies by local jurisdiction.

I've never put a front plate on my Z, and in 6+ years have never been stopped for it.

My -7 almost never sports a front plate. It goes on for some meets where I think the likelihood of PO activity is high. 20 years, never a ticket.

But more urbanized areas are more prone to ticket, because the red-light and speed cameras (read as LE ATMs) work primarily off the front plate.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LongDuck
...cost saving measure for the state budgets.
same thing here when they did away with those damn state inspections all those yrs ago.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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cool so the hinged idea it will probably be then. We do have a petition about the front license plate removal going on here in ontario. Petition can be found here:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Ont_Front_Plate/

Here's what it says about it and why we should be removing front licence plates:
"Firstly, eliminating the need for a front license plate will significantly reduce the Province's costs associated with production, storage, and accounting for the additional plate. In 2004 the province of Saskatchewan joined five other provinces who no longer require a front license plate - reportedly saving the government $370 000 per year, while helping to reduce insurance costs. See http://www.gov.sk.ca/news?news...

Secondly, the front license plate negatively affects the efficiency of the vehicle by interrupting the aerodynamics with the plate at the vehicle's primary point of attack. Further, many vehicles suffer further losses in efficiency with the front plate's blockage of large portions of the front air-intake of the vehicle, resulting in increased fuel consumption, and increased greenhouse emissions.

Thirdly, unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions, resulting from the front plate mounting brackets and bolts on passenger cars, which cause cracks and abrasions to the rear bumpers of the cars that they hit, which would otherwise be absorbed.

Alberta, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan and the three territories use single license plates. With Ontario's population greater than 10x that of Saskatchewan, the demonstrated tax savings for the Province would be millions of dollars per year, every year. In light of the cost savings for the Province, cutting greenhouse emissions, and other positive effects, we are asking that this law be repealed."
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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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i folded the top part of mine from CALIFORNIA and up, and bolted it down to the inside of the bumper... yeah its ghetto but i like it and i the cops have never hassled me.

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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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I was gonna do that but it made it look like mouth with one big tooth! lmao
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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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They've been doing those hinged plate holders in japan for years....flips back when above 50kph.

From what I understand, the cops don't like the plates in the front windshield due to the fact that in an accident, they act like guillotines and can do some major bodily damage.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Mariah actually used to sell the hinge kit for theirs. It you were above 20 mph, it would flip up. A cop could pull you over for no front plate, just play ignorant and tell him it's there. He walked around to take a look and viola, a plate! Since you arelady have the Mariah front end, call them to see if they still have the kit.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Mariah actually used to sell the hinge kit for theirs. It you were above 20 mph, it would flip up. A cop could pull you over for no front plate, just play ignorant and tell him it's there. He walked around to take a look and viola, a plate! Since you arelady have the Mariah front end, call them to see if they still have the kit.
that happened to a friend of mine. his is zip tied to his 7, and it folds under the bumper at speed. got pulled over for no front plate by a cop heading the other way, and told the cop "its there" cop looked, said "oh, i didn't see it" and left.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Then the slightly-above-average cop pushes on it, sees that it's hinged, and tickets you for it not being visible 'while driving.'

Might not stick, but still a hassle to deal with.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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I took the rear mounting bracket off a parts car... bent it a lil bit... and bolted it to the bottom side of the front bumper using the 10mmm bolts that are already there to hold the bumperskin in place.

LOOKS LIKE IT CAME THAT WAY FROM THE FACTORY AND DOESN'T DAMAGE A THING.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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That sucks. I hate front plates. No front plates required here in Michigan, and it's AMAZING. Good luck.
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