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Old 04-06-08, 07:07 PM
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where did you get those coilovers are they koni
Old 04-06-08, 08:15 PM
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$400!!!

Dude! You wasted your money! If you'd sent ME the $400 I would have flown out there and solved all your problems by installing the airpump and rigging it as a passive idler, if necessary (which it isn't).

Then I could have visited my brother in Wenham since I would be in the neighorhood.

That way you'd save the embarrassment of breaking down on the road next month with no replacement Gilmer belt available in the whole state of MA.

The original vbelt oughta last 10 years and be much quieter. None of that annoying whine! And you wouldn't look like such a ricer.

If you want that supercharger sound just put a playing card in your spokes.
Old 04-06-08, 08:42 PM
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bliffle and the other people who have made direct attacks at me. why all the hate. iam not trying to be a ricer. i didn't just get it for the sound.that was the last reason by the way. i can get replacement belts from my work no problem.my work uses strongbelts for different products so i can get them at cost. i was hoping to find a Goodyear ect type belt near by, so i didn't have to buy a bunch of extras from my work or order them over the net. i don't think ill be replacing it that much. I've talked to a few people who use this setup before i bought this so i new what i would be getting.

i said before i tried the pineapple racing belt's. was too hard to put on, kept twisting ect. then when i got it on it broke. 14 dollars down the drain. pluse it was green

i talked to a few people who use a double belt around the alt before going to a gilmer setup. they all said its a crap shoot trying to get two belts that stretch the same.

sorry if this pissed you guys off, ie posting about my gilmer setup. i had to post some install pics for some of my friends on this board. i don't get why so many people attacked me.


googoo to answer what you asked.
if you mean the struts there kyb gr-2 front and rear.
if you meant the adjustable coil spring setup. its from respeed. the springs seem to be floating in the air be cause the bumb stop is holding them up like that.
the sway bar is also from respeed, with adjust end links.
Old 04-06-08, 09:12 PM
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damn, a LOT of jealous people in this thread. at least i can come out and say that i want this but can't afford it. that looks awesome Ben, you better lock your car so i don't come and steal this new setup! good job on this one.
Old 04-06-08, 09:43 PM
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Ben this setup looks great. Ignore the bashers. They are jealous or don't understand it.
Old 04-06-08, 09:44 PM
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That looks damn good, now you need to get an FC alternator, pull your motor and paint EVERYTHING like I did.

I've done a cheater belt on my car (3L220 napa belt), that worked excellent for me. Then I put the Pettit engine in my car and aquired a free brand new FC alternator with one of those dual groove rotor shaped pulleys, guess what I'm running now. One thing about it, is the belts make a **** ton of noise, not squeaking, but just dry belt noise most of the time, and I'm running out of belt conditioner.

I may or may not make my own, I'd like to base it off of VW 16V timing parts, as they use gilmer pulleys, and I can get ahold of them to take reference measurements to have my own machined. But that won't happen for a while, everything else (home brew sterling carb, Respeed rack & pinion, brakes, GSL rear end, distributerless ignition, etc) comes first.

And to all the haters:
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i plan on getting a rebuilt motor thats iam going to turbo next winter. i was more worried about handling ect. started as brakes and shocks then replaced my whole suspension setup and all new bushings.

iam wicked pumped because i just need
front break lines,e-fan,wire some gauges,last but not least in stall front air dam iam getting. then my car will be back on the road.
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Looks good.

Your going to have to make your own timing marks on the main g-pulley as they don't come with timing marks. This is how I did mine. Put your stock pulley back on with two hand tightened bolts and line up the TDC white mark with your pointer on your front cover. Now carefully remove the stock pully and put your Gilmer pulley on. Make a mark on the pulley with a fine point black majic marker. Remove the G-pulley and notch the pulley with a fine file where your mark is. Now dab some paint in the file mark and your done.
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I want this setup for my S/C.
Old 04-07-08, 12:06 AM
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looks really nice..
i would like on two please

hehe verbal attacks
sorry i get kinda pissed to bein mistakin for ausie since i live here.
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I want to know why everyone thinks a Gilmer setup is going to go through belts so fast. Obviously Gilmer drives would not be in production if they were so bad. Looks good man. I thought about getting the Tweakit kit but I have yet to have any slippage issues with the single belt I have (although the new Sterling may change that) and when I go with the dual belts, if one stretches faster then I'll just replace them both. I don't mind throwing every dime I earn at my car.
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Originally Posted by ultimatejay
Looks good.

Your going to have to make your own timing marks on the main g-pulley as they don't come with timing marks. This is how I did mine. Put your stock pulley back on with two hand tightened bolts and line up the TDC white mark with your pointer on your front cover. Now carefully remove the stock pully and put your Gilmer pulley on. Make a mark on the pulley with a fine point black majic marker. Remove the G-pulley and notch the pulley with a fine file where your mark is. Now dab some paint in the file mark and your done.
I've always wanted the Gilmer Drive setup, even though some say it kills alt. bearings if too tight. One day...but

UltimateJay....I was always wondering the same thing about timing marks....couldn't you also take an extra main pully, line up the "key" grooves and then mark it?
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first i lined up a mark before i took the pulley off.i took a metal note of wich mark i lined up with the timing mark. i used extra long bolts and lightly bolted both pulleys together and transfered my marks.
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man the pulley kit's are ******* bad ***...and for the price there well worth it...I heard one on a 12a bridge, and on high rpm they sound like damn super chargers...good stuff...and good luck with finding a near by source for your kit
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Another way to fix the slip is to increase the belt contact on the water pump. I ran the dual belt pulley for years but just recently mounted my alt on the side where the AC used to be. Now I can run with a single belt but I don't because a.) I still have the dual pulleys on everything and b.) I now have a redundant belt setup

Looks nice tho and I'm sure it will solve the problem just as well. Get vid of it up so we can experience the "noise"? How bad can it be?
Old 04-07-08, 01:07 PM
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nice setup. but i'd like to say i've never had this belt slippage using a single belt and as for having to hold the clutch in to remove the e-shaft pulley, that's only if u remove it using the big bolt in the center.
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i wasn't sure about the clutch trick. i made a post asking about the clutch trick ect. and they linked me to www.mazdatrix.com and they say even if you just changing pulleys. so i wasn't sure but wanted to be safe.
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Hm.. I am really curious to hear a ful technical explination as to why "Gilmer Belts are bad." It seems everyone says that but the only thing you ever hear them say is the parroting of "Goes through belts fast and chews up Alt. Bearings."

I'm not trying to be an ***, I am honestly curious as to the technical disadvantages of these type of systems, because I was considering one for a future project. I hear good things about these belt set-ups... so why all the hate?

is there a way to get rid of the Supercharger Whine or is it just one of those SOL things?
Old 04-07-08, 06:14 PM
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if you have a problem with belt squeek, just use a black crayon. and for the yoo hoo belt i used a 1/2 inch wide 22'' long v-belt from napa. the belt was like 6 bucks. motor spun 7500 rpm and the belt was just fine. just got back from a road trip, turning 4000-5200 rpm for about 2 hours and havent had a single problem.
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Originally Posted by 1983GSP
if you have a problem with belt squeek, just use a black crayon.
What?
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I've heard of that trick before with the crayon. i guess some of the gilmer kits are square tooth and some are round tooth belts. my pulleys and belt is round tooth witch is spouse to be not as load.
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Originally Posted by orion84gsl
I want to know why everyone thinks a Gilmer setup is going to go through belts so fast.
Maybe because car owners are cursing the Gilmer timing belts that snap and crash their valves resulting in a trashed engine?
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It really will look coooooll!

Maybe you should take the hood off so people can see it more easily. Or perhaps you should put a plexiglass panel in the hood!
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Originally Posted by bliffle
Maybe because car owners are cursing the Gilmer timing belts that snap and crash their valves resulting in a trashed engine?
Snapped timing belts are a result of a lack of preventive maintenance. It's not hard to see when a gilmer timing belt needs to be changed (after many miles of use), which is very cheap and easy to do.
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The only thing i can think on the alt issue is the size of the gilmer pulley on the alt and how much tension the super thick belt puts on the alt shaft. Makes sense i guess, that pulley looks like its two inches wide.


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