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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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frankenstien engine...will it work?

i want to build an engine with these parts:

TII housings, front, middle and rear plate (streetported)

S5 N/A rotors, E shaft, front counterwheight and flywheel.

mazdatrix street/strip clutch for a s4

so basically, is the s5 rotating assembly compatable with a TII block?
is a s4 clutch compatable with a s5 flywheel?
and what intake manifold would fit a TII block for a carburater?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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It should all work, yes, both the flywheel and clutch have to be either turbo or non-turbo, and any 4 port 13B manifold.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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what about rotor housings? im building a little different of a 13B frankenmotor:

12A Side & Int Housings
S3 Rotor Housings and EShaft
S5 Rotors
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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I would like to see someone make a turbo'd renesis built with s5 rotors (guess it would have to be actually because I hear that the renesis rotor's apex seal grooves cannot be machined as deep as what the s5 rotors already are. just an idea of mine if money was not an issue.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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Apologies for the above double post, the server was playing up and left the message apparantly in limbo for 15 minutes.

Lemonade. Yes, it should work as the parts are interchangable, as long as Nimrod said the flywheel/clutch are compatible as the NA and turbo are different.

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Old May 16, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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thanks, but im still stumped on how im going to go about bolting the dellorto carburator to the engine......... which combo of intake manifolds?






also, The 7, arent 12a rotors thinner? so you'd have to use 13b housings? and you'd have to machine coolant seal grooves.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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i'm pretty sure you can't use the pre 85 housings with FC and newer rotors.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BMS2004
i'm pretty sure you can't use the pre 85 housings with FC and newer rotors.
I have seen others state this also, but Mazdatrix sells built engines with 12a plates, 74-78 13b houseings, and s5 rotors, also 84-85 se motors with s5 rotors.
So it must work.
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i'm pretty sure you can't use the pre 85 housings with FC and newer rotors.
You cant use pre-85 rotors in later rotor housings. Has something to do with the rotor face contacting the middle of the housing.
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Old May 18, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lemonade
i want to build an engine with these parts:

TII housings, front, middle and rear plate (streetported)

S5 N/A rotors, E shaft, front counterwheight and flywheel.

mazdatrix street/strip clutch for a s4

so basically, is the s5 rotating assembly compatable with a TII block?
is a s4 clutch compatable with a s5 flywheel?
and what intake manifold would fit a TII block for a carburater?

Yes the above will work.

As far as the carb, you will need to use the turbo lower and a side draft upper.

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