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Old 02-14-04, 08:05 PM
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Fram sure drain

Was wondering if anyone else has stumbled across this and used it? I picked one up a couple of months ago and its worked great so far. I've never been too fond of the fumoto valve because it sticks out too far and looks like if it got hit by a sizable rock that it would pop open. But the sure drain impressed me right off since it has two methods of protection, one is the draining mechanism and then there is a cap that screws on over that so should the spring mechanism fail you wont be left on the highway without oil.. Oh and it only sticks out a couple centimeters past where the stock drain plug would..

Normally I wouldn't buy a fram product but am very pleased sof ar. Plus it was becoming a pain in the *** to find a crush washer for the stock drain plug, no one seemed to carry them, now i dont have to worry about it.
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i have heard of them. seems to be a decent product. i would not personally use one. i like the ol' bolt and crush washer method.
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No point in having it. If you don't want your hand to get dirty you shouldn't be changing oil.
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wel its not really about getting dirty.. I have limited space to work in here and where i do have to work is at a slant and so i usually end up getting half the oil in the pan and the other half in the street. Plus when the car is lowered its a PITA to get under it with a wrench.
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perhaps you should jack it up.
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jacking up a car on uneven ground puts undue stress on the jack and frame of the car plus i'd have to jack it up like 3 feet for it to make a difference...

anyways that wasn't really the point in this thread..
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you could always do what we used to do when we were working on more then one car at a time and did not have enough jacks to go around.

drive up the side of a curb.. should bring the car up enough to get under it with no problems. and it cant fall on you.
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I just pick my car up, and turn it upside down with the oil filler cap off to drain the oil. It impresses the ladies.....::flexes::
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I have a slanted driveway and it works great for changing the oil, here is why.

I bought a pair of RhinoRamps from Walmart *$30, I back the car up the drive way, put the ramps in front of the front tire and pull forward up the ramps. The car is almost level and I have a lot more clearance to get under the car.

BTW, I find the drain plug adapter really slow down the old oil flow out of the pan, plus who is to say if the thing failed. Who is going to buy you a new engine. I like the factory plug best, never had a problem.

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If I need to get under a car without any equipemnt (Stock jacks suck) I find the nearest driveway apron. (Where Driveway meets sidewalk and street...) and I drive one pair of wheels up the slant onto the curb...

It's great when I'm test driving a car that I'm considering driving.
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I use one on my wifes Silverado. Works great! Chevy made the stock one so the oil splashes all over the frame and exhaust instead of down into the drain pan, so I really needed this. Handy as hell. Would be convenient on the 7. But ours really doesnt create a big problem draining the oil, so I never bothered.
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Nate I felt your pain and bought one also. I did this more out of nesscessity than anything, (but I like the idea behind this addition). Stock plug had the corners rounded And in my case no matter how long it takes to drain it will still be faster than having to jack the car up. So call me a sissy if you wish but I like this product. I also like the idea of using the curb as a "jack" I'll have to use that.
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I use the Fumoto drain - works great, and is one less thing to have to fish the drain plug out of the oil catch pan. Simple, effective, and in 10 years of service, has never leaked, popped open, been cracked off by a rock...

(you get the idea).
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haha i have had one experience with FRAM and it was negative, so i use any other product than theirs. actually 2 bad experiences, one with their air filter (never again), its K&N all the way now! i can partially blame my local parts store, but still, fram isn't my friend. as for the sure drain, never used it, probably never will. which reminds me, i need to do an oil change very soon, myself! not going to trust anyone with my 7.
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I have used the sure drain on my 02 Maxima SE and my wife's 96 Accord for 2 or 3 oil changes each. There is less mess (I don't use the orange tube), it is a little slower, but no more wrenches and finding the washers after they fall.
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Originally posted by MRMARK
I have used the sure drain on my 02 Maxima SE and my wife's 96 Accord for 2 or 3 oil changes each. There is less mess (I don't use the orange tube), it is a little slower, but no more wrenches and finding the washers after they fall.


drains very very slow....


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