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Old 09-13-08, 11:32 PM
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Final wiring help needed!

Hey guys. More or less, I'm just about ready to turn this girl over. I'm almost, almost done. It's been almost a year since I started though, and some how all the labels on the wiring harness have fallen off or faded. The car was in the shade, under a tarp.. riddle me that x.x

Anyway, I need some help indentifying some things that I simply cannot remember where they go. I've scoured the haynes manual and the FSM and unfortunately I cant find what im looking for. I plan on doing the last bit of work tomorrow on the car, so your help is greatly, greatly appreciated. I've taken some pictures to help narrow down what im trying to ask.

First of all. Just where my hand is in this picture, im holding onto a black vacuum tube. That is attached to a nipple. Where does this one connect to? I cant find anywhere this one goes.




Secondly now, is the wiring harness. I assume these connectors go to the solenoids on by the oil fill area. Yet, they are not in the slightest long enough to reach there. Do I perhaps have the wiring harness run wrong along the engine?





Next, is this little doozey right here


I cant find in the FSM where this goes, or where it attaches to. I remember removing this thing, but I cannot for the life of remember where. I realize its orange x.x


Does this spider looking vacuum holder look correct? These go to nipples on top of the oil injectors correct? No particular order?



And I think that sums it up! I will definately have more questions tomorrow likely as I'm peicing things together. But your help is invaluable, as this is my first rebuild of any type. Your experiance helps a tonne, so I thank ye in advance!
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1. Hose is called air-bleed socket. It goes to the bottom or sencond from tje bottom nipple on the front of the RE-EGI box (there are 4 nipples there).

2. Those wires go the the solenoid rack. There are also two black wires in there with ring connectors..these get ground though one of the bolts that holds the solenoid rack down.

3. The 'doozy' is the air refief silencer. It mounts to the car under where the AFM mounts too. One end connects to the Air Control Valve (nipple that point out towards the fender). The other end just wraps around and tucks in front of the radiator (doesn't connect to anythng).

4. That is the vacuum spider. It connects to the oil injectors as you mention. It does not matter which hose goes where. The top hose plug into the front of the RE-EGI either above or below the air-bleed socket connection (bottom or 2nd from the bottom). You'll have to double check which one.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

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Thank you addict!

A couple more for your consideration, if ye dont mind.

Refering to number 3: Air relief silencer. Is this the nipple that points towards the fender your talking about?




Lastly for the night:

What the heck is this, and why does it look broken? Where does it go?




Thank you, thank you!
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1. Yep. That's the nipple.

2. That is supposed to go to the main cat. It looks broken because it is. It provides air from the airpump to the main cat. The small tubeon there provides backpressure to operate the 5/6 ports.
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Wish I had a better way to repay you then just a thank you, Addict!

So, relating to that broken do-dad.

The air pump on the car was removed by the previous owner, and the exhuast system is a custom job, again from the previous owner. There is no cat on this car. It's soon to be replaced with a racing beat header and street exhuast for a project over the long, long canadian winter..

Seeing as the air pump has been removed, will the 5/6 ports still work? Or do I have a large problem looming here? Since I'm doing a full restore on the car, I want everything to be working correctly. I debated about adding the air pump back into the system, but I dont see the advantage to it. Makes it worse, that I dont have any of the stock exhuast system..

Can I get ye'r opinion mate?
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Well, it depends on the RB system that you have or will get. The single outlet system has a place at the presilencer to connect this line (you will obviously need a new line). You would not need the air pump, but you could run it..your choice.

The S4 RB headers have a nipple near the engine where you could connect the 5/6 port line. I think the angle might be a bit different on the S4 headers, but could probably work in the GSL-SE. You'll have to talk to RB on that.

To run the 5/6 ports on backpressure, you really just need to tap into the exhaust. If your exhaust doesn't have a spot for the 5/6 port line, you could drill a hole and have a nipple welded on. Closer to the engine provides more backpressure..important with the lower backpressure aftermarket exhaust.

Another possibility is to run the 5/6 ports off the air pump. I can get you details if you want this route.

3rd possiblity is to run them off a lumbar pump (small electric air pump) and use an RPM switch to turn the pump on. This way, you can also adjust when they come on. Lots on info in the 2nd gen section about this method.
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Allrighty, so just to summerize so I make sure I got everything right.

The method that I am most interested is welding a nipple onto the exhuast system. That'd be the simplest and I think the most effective, as it follows what it should do from the factory to begin with.

Now, that means I'll be allright to remove the large tube and the metal funnel completely, correct? I'll then take the smaller tube, replace it with new good tubing and place that over the welded nipple?
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You got it. The large tube is only needed if you are running the air pump.
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