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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Emergency:broken intake maifold stud!

hi guys and girls! as u can see i have a broken intake manifold stud, now originally the stud broke removing the intake and there was just enough to grab it with vise grips, so i sprayd it with pb blaster and gave it a shot, it was turnign ok, then all of a sudden it snapped even more so there is nothing showing . does anyone have any experience with this, and can u guys give me some advice, this is making me mad because i ordered my gasket and im almost all set to put the manifold back on the car but cant because of this broken stud , any advise would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

ps: its one of the studs under the coolant passages on the housings.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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get an EZ out, or drill it out.

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Is it on the iron, or the housing? Do you have a Welder? You can weld a little bead on the broken stud, and put a nut over the bead, and weld the nut to the bead. That should allow you to remove it completely.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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yeah this process works good ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

if you can, heat up around the stud.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Weld the welding should heat it up just fine.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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yeah but it will just heat up the stud, exactly what you dont want to do. Let it cool, then heat up around the stud.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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It's not going to only heat up the stud, it won't take long for the heat to disipate through the iron, there is a Heat Effected Zone.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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no, unfortunately i dont have a welder, but if i drill it of how will i use a new bolt, do i have to retap it?
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Get a screw extractor, drill a tiny hole in the middle of the bolt and stick your extractor in the hole and turn counterclockwise. Soak it with PB also. http://www.mytoolstore.com/hanson/extractr.html (top one) any hardware store sells them individually.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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Hi Guys,
New here, but maybe I can help...
The welding idea is the best. The heat generated usually breaks the bolt loose enough to turn out. Also, if it starts to get tight again, you can turn it back in & out again (several times if need be) to work it out.
I think using a left-handed drill bit (yes they make them) to drill it out would be my second choice. Buy one the same size or smaller of the *inside* of the threads of the bolt. Usually the heat & friction of drilling will back out the broken stud. If not once you drill it out you can run in a tap to clean out the threads. Of course you need a reversable drill, & - this is important - be sure to center punch the bolt in the *exact* center. If you can't find a left-handed drill bit then try it with a normal one. Might be a good idea to start small & work your way up to the correct size for the tap.
BTW; if you use an extractor (usually called an "easy-out") DON'T FORCE IT! The reason they call them easy-outs is 'cause they're for broken bolts that are *easy* to get out. If you break off an extractor you're in for a real treat trying to get that out!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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yeah the welding thing is definitely the easiest but i think im going to drill it out and re tap it or something, but u guys gave me a lot of i deas if this one doesnt work, thanks guys
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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It's also possible if the stub broke of and left a high spot on the broken piece to use a chisel, and a hammer to back it out using the chisel on the high spot, the hammer to tap the stud obviously and do this in the counter clockwise direction. This has worked for me numerous times.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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yeah im gonna try that before i drill it, drilling is like the last thing i want to do. i dont know what im doing first now though.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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If the stud is sticking a little bit out of the rotor housing, get a little dremel cutter and make a line throuhg the stud and get a flathead screwdriver and screw it out.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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^^^ thats a good idea too but, there is no power at my storage and the bolt is really tight, so even if i did get it dremeled i would still not be able to get it because its so tight.
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