diy instructions for strutbar
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diy instructions for strutbar
i dont mean to sound critical, but does anyone really think that design will do anything???? it looks like someone spent a lot of precious time designing and crafting something completely useless...there is no triangulation to the firewall and the bar is bolted together ,not welded...very weak...and not to mention just real ugly...if anyone is interested, i will send you picks of a serious triangulated bar for the first gen...nice try jamie, but leave it to the professionals
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I appreciate the effort that went into making it and writing it up, but there is more to building a strut bar than just bolting some metal between the strut towers. The amount of give could be equal to the amount of flex, rendering it useless. The strut bars that come from the high end tuners and OEM are built by engineers doing all the proper testing and calculations.
Again, not trying to knock the innovation, but it scares me when I think about products like being sold on Ebay.
While we're talking about, do any of the big tuning shops make a decent strut bar for the FB?
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Triangulated strut bars are against SCCA rules. I understand that triangulating the strut bar will make it stiffer and more effective.
Ever see the old Rotary Engineering strut bar design? It is one of the most sought after parts by first generation Rx-7 owners. There are not many floating around and you can expect to pay big $$$$ for them. I think that there are probably 3 of them on this whole forum. They are bolted at the ends also, and were designed by "professionals" as you so aptly put it. The purpose of my how to in the archive was to offer a RE replica bar that people could affordably re-create.
Moreover, who are you to be criticizing the structural aspects of the strut bar plans that I offered? I don't see much of an argument on your side other than you calling it "weak". Why? Care to expand on that for me? How about some REAL technical terms? I would guess not because you probably don't know as much as you would like everyone to believe that you do.
Could I design a 10X better strut bar than that if I wanted to? SURE! Would anyone be willing to pay for the materials to make it? Not likely! Most people want a cheap, easy to make option and that is what I threw out there for them.
That's all I'm going to say for now. There is a lot more that I'd like to add, but it's not worth my time....
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I fully support Jamie. His design is just as good as any non-triangulated design. There isn't really that much involved in designing a strut bar to be better/worse than others, like you guys are trying to say. The goal is just to tie the strut towers together to prevent flex. Simple as that. Steel is plently good in tension and compression. Not sure why you guys are knocking the design.. Because it is bolts and not welded? If that's the prob, just take the design and weld it..
Sure, trigulated works better, but is against SCCA rules. I'm an engineer. How 'bout you guys?
Sure, trigulated works better, but is against SCCA rules. I'm an engineer. How 'bout you guys?
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2 noobs come on here are start knocking someone who is trying to help out the community, instead of trying to make $ off of them! (like others)
Oh, rearview try searching to find your answer to your noobness.
Oh, rearview try searching to find your answer to your noobness.
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I wasn't knocking him, just giving my opinion, if you're going to make it in business you have to be able to take it.
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I fully support Jamie. His design is just as good as any non-triangulated design. There isn't really that much involved in designing a strut bar to be better/worse than others, like you guys are trying to say. The goal is just to tie the strut towers together to prevent flex. Simple as that. Steel is plently good in tension and compression. Not sure why you guys are knocking the design.. Because it is bolts and not welded? If that's the prob, just take the design and weld it..
Sure, trigulated works better, but is against SCCA rules. I'm an engineer. How 'bout you guys?
Sure, trigulated works better, but is against SCCA rules. I'm an engineer. How 'bout you guys?
No offense to glazedham intended. GSL-SE addict should understand this, in the engineering world there is never success without severe scrutiny. To other guy shootin' off the n00b comments, get a life dood, you're a nobody on this forum just like the rest of us. Your post count doesn't reflect your intelligence.
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i also fully support Jamie. he takes the time out of his day and the money out of his pocket to try and help others here on the club. winecoloredgslse, unless you have anything useful to help the club and other members, don't post. you will be wasting your time. its just plain rude to barge into someone's home and call them out, when you post no factual references or pictures to support a design you believe to be superior. you are entitled to what you feel and perhaps there is fact in your feelings. but please don't come here and throw these guys under the bus. we have a great group of guys(and gals) here that would give the shirt off of their back to help another member.
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This thread is worthless.
There is nothing beneficial, or practical being contributed by the Noobs here.
(If you are new to the 1st gen section, you are Noob, - regardless of your sign up date.)
GlazedHam called you out pretty well, as to your true intentions of selling something in the future.
Feel free to contribute something positive to the 1st gen section, instead of just "filler."
Closing time.
There is nothing beneficial, or practical being contributed by the Noobs here.
(If you are new to the 1st gen section, you are Noob, - regardless of your sign up date.)
GlazedHam called you out pretty well, as to your true intentions of selling something in the future.
Feel free to contribute something positive to the 1st gen section, instead of just "filler."
Closing time.
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