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Old 02-26-05, 07:51 PM
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diagnosing a loss of oil pressure?

Hello Folks,
Need some help here diagnosing a loss of oil pressure? I have an 86 13B in my first gen and I have swapped the front cover with a GSL-SE front cover. I was at the track and everything was fine. All of a sudden the oil pressure dropped. At idle it was about 10 psi and if I revved it the pressure would rise to about 45 psi.

I figured that I blew out the “O” ring between the front cover and the block. But, I have just pulled the front cover off and it does not appear to have blow out or be miss-shapen at all.

Do you have any suggestions of what happened, how to diagnose it for sure and how to fix it?

Thanks
Old 02-26-05, 09:09 PM
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are you going by the stock oil pressure guage? they are very inacurate!!

try using a mechanical guage, i think your oil system is fine
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I was using the stock one, but the engine is out of the car now and the front cover is off. What can I do to test the oiling system now?
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Put it back together and start it up with a mechanical gauge hooked up where the original gauge sending unit was. For ***** and giggles, you could replace the pump, but I don't think much wear occurs on that type of oil pump.
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Originally Posted by Kill No Cone
Hello Folks,
Need some help here diagnosing a loss of oil pressure? I have an 86 13B in my first gen and I have swapped the front cover with a GSL-SE front cover. I was at the track and everything was fine. All of a sudden the oil pressure dropped. At idle it was about 10 psi and if I revved it the pressure would rise to about 45 psi.

I figured that I blew out the “O” ring between the front cover and the block. But, I have just pulled the front cover off and it does not appear to have blow out or be miss-shapen at all.

Do you have any suggestions of what happened, how to diagnose it for sure and how to fix it?

Thanks

There is a FAQ at mazdatrix website. thats a common problem with the 86+ motors.
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Jeb,

Are you using the the second gen eccentric shaft?? If yes, have you replaced the thermo-wax, oil bypass, accelerated warmup thing. If/when that fails the oil pressure does exactly what you are descibing.

Ryan
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Hey Ryan,
Good to see you around! This is redwood's old engine and I put in a Atkins soild thermo pellet. I hope school (and life) is going well for you.

I will check the mazdatrix page as well. That is where I got the info about the front seals blowing out. The last time I looked was a year ago, there may be more info for me there.
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Any other thoughts or suggestions out there !?!
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Say can I get any further input on the " thermo-wax, oil bypass, accelerated warmup thing."?? Also I've seen elsewhere that as low as 30 lbs is considered "normal", is this so??
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The thermo item only applies to the 2nd gen engine not a 1st gen.

30lbs at what RPM?






Originally Posted by hey111you
Say can I get any further input on the " thermo-wax, oil bypass, accelerated warmup thing."?? Also I've seen elsewhere that as low as 30 lbs is considered "normal", is this so??
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and he needs to research its function...what a noob.
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I am usually at 30 at 2k.... Definitely look up on the thermal pellet as said.
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