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Old 04-27-05, 03:47 AM
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Cost effective ways to bring down engine temperature.

What ways have you found that are cost effective and bring down your engines heat during the summer?
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I have heard that a product called "Water Wetter" really helps a lot. I have seen it in the parts stores, along with a couple other brands that do the same thing...
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- Better radiator
- E-fan
- Misc. vents and pipes to the rad.
- ELF coolant. Noticed a significant drop when i started using this!
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New radiator only costs about $129. Change your hoses too.
Efan is the best way, but you said cost effective.
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run a heavier oil like 20w50. the temps will be a little lower and be much more resistance to fluctuations
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"One circumstance in particular used to torment me - namely the circumstance that no one else was like me, and that I was like no one else. I am a person to myself, whereas they are everybody."

From “Notes from the Underground” by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Hmmm... stares blankly into space pondering the significance of that while unconsciously twisting chin whiskers... Oh!... realize that cloning will completely **** Fyodor's paranoid psyche. And did they call him "odor" for short in the homeland ?
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
I have heard that a product called "Water Wetter" really helps a lot. I have seen it in the parts stores, along with a couple other brands that do the same thing...
Water Wetter works great. It's made by Redline oil...
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hehe, i just have to say it, how bout some nawzzzz =) right to the rad, lol...
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1. Clean your rad.
2. Cut holes in your header panel.
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Use 70 to 80% water; 30 to 20% coolant.
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There is also purple ice to use. And if you are looking for a new radiator, measure yours including inlets, and goto a junkyard looking at minivan radiators. They are really good a cooling.
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Originally Posted by DAVID GRIMES
Hmmm... stares blankly into space pondering the significance of that while unconsciously twisting chin whiskers... Oh!... realize that cloning will completely **** Fyodor's paranoid psyche. And did they call him "odor" for short in the homeland ?
Such repartee, I simply cannot compete.

@everyone else: Thanks for the help, my car already has an electric fan on there, but it seems to be sub-standard. Is the bang for the buck fan still one pulled from a fierro?
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100% water. runs cooler than antifreeze. its anti freeze not coolant. coolant doesnot exist... But if you run sraight water its more corosive than water/antifreeze mix.
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Originally Posted by RacerX7fb
Use 70 to 80% water; 30 to 20% coolant.
Heh, suprised I didn't notice the image in your signature the first time reading it...is that balintawak?
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Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
100% water. runs cooler than antifreeze. its anti freeze not coolant. coolant doesnot exist... But if you run sraight water its more corosive than water/antifreeze mix.
True, but Water Wetter has rust inhibitors in it, same as anti-freeze

I use water with Water Wetter in the summer and switch to 50/50 Anti freeze for the winter.

I also flush the cooling system once a year...
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www.pineappleracing.com sells Evans coolant, and the cost is about $35 a gallon, so you need 2. To me, after a rebuild, and new cooling parts such as heater core if used, rad and water pump, it WILL make it all last alot longer and cool alot better. Also they say very low, if any PSI in the system. I will try this out this summer!
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Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
100% water. runs cooler than antifreeze. its anti freeze not coolant. coolant doesnot exist... But if you run sraight water its more corosive than water/antifreeze mix.
I was under the impression that "coolant" was the genearic term used to descibe what ever was used in the cooling system of a car be it water, water /antifreeze mix or what ever. I think antifreeze mixes also raise the boiling point of the coolant over just water
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Originally Posted by RacerX7fb
Use 70 to 80% water; 30 to 20% coolant.
nice sig there pare. Most of the guys I used to train with are teaching kali/escrima @ SIPA in LA. Wish I can find the time.
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Originally Posted by gsl-se85fb
I was under the impression that "coolant" was the genearic term used to descibe what ever was used in the cooling system of a car be it water, water /antifreeze mix or what ever. I think antifreeze mixes also raise the boiling point of the coolant over just water
When most people say coolant, they mean ethelyne glycol antifreeze. Most people just dilute it down to a standard 50/50 mix.
Yes it does raise the boiling point, but only a couple degrees, not enought to matter. Plus it's LESS efficient at transfering heat than water.
It's only real uses are for the rust inhibitors in it, and as an antifreeze.
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Cooling system

Yes it is true that straight water is more efficent at cooling than a mix of water and
coolant/antifreeze. But is it good to run it like this, the answer is NO.
The proper mix of water/antifreeze and proper radiator cap raises the boiling point from 212 deg farenheit at Sea level to approx 240 deg farenheit at sea level.
Not only does coolant/anti freeze have corrosion inhibitors but has lube for the water pump seal. The newer antifreeze/coolant is silicone silicate/phosphorus free.
What does that mean, well it helps prevent the interior deterioration of all the coolant hoses. the formula also helps in the deterioration of interior seals and also helps with the prevention of deterioration between the joining of cast iron and aluminum components.
And to answer the question as to an inexpensive way to cool the engine.
As others have stated, Red lines Water Wetter is the answer. It helps with the transfer of heat or carrying it away more efficently.
There is no need to cut holes in the header panel. One of the more critical components of the under neath is the under tray that covers the bottom of the engine. It is designed to allow air to come thru the engine to cool more efficently.
Another important factor is to keep your engine block free of oil. Oil holds in heat.
also keep the front of the radiator and a/c condesner free of bugs/leaves ,etc.
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If you can live without AC remove the AC Condensor! It is a big block infront of your radiator that heats the air before it gets to the rad.

Also a proper thermostat and radiator cap will keep you cooling system in its opperating efficiency range alot better.

also if you have had old antifreeze or mixed different types of anti freeze it is VERY wise to Really flush out the cooling system because old antifreeze can congeil if mixed or let to set, and gell doesnt flow very well!
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Be sure to hose down the condenser and the radiator to remove dirt. you want the air to flow freely for better heat transfer. Also, check your anti-freeze for corrosion. If there is, you need to get the radiator rod-out. Thats in addition to a good fan.

BTW, most of the newer radiators have higher SEER rating than the older ones. It has more fins to ensure that more air will hit the radiator core.
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Originally Posted by wackyracer
nice sig there pare. Most of the guys I used to train with are teaching kali/escrima @ SIPA in LA. Wish I can find the time.
yeah exactly time.... work, work on car, train whenever... bah

anti-freeze/ coolant, whatever you got it

Also get a new radiator cap and an OEM thermostat installed properly (jiggle pin up)
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See if you all would just listen to RX7 doctor he has the answer there. also a good idea I have setup but not fully tested yet I got an old windshield washer bottel and ran some lines to the front of my car I'm planning on running a misting kit to the front mount oil cooler when I get it setup and all installed I will have pics and walk through so anyone can do this simple mod for cheap.


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