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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Cooling questions.

So.. I just wanted to come here to ask a few questions about this first..

The valance between the headlights on first gens blocks about 1/3 of the grill. Now I under stand that the fan shroud helps direct air across the entire thing, but if I was to cut vents into the valance, would it help or restrict cooling?


And does anyone have any pictures of vents cut into this valance?
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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It may hurt cooling as the air is being forced thru what essentailly is a large venturi. Thats why
pan on the bottom of the front engine compartment is also important to the cooling.

I don't think its worth doing, doubt it will help cooling and could possible upset it too.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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it may also look crappy, depending on you body work and paint skills
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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it may also look crappy, depending on you body work and paint skills
Not overly worried about looks, but if it's not worth doing, I won't bother doing it.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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mainly if ur worried about the car running cool take the old mechanical fan( if it has one) out and run an electrical fan to a switch. thats how bolth fan are run on mine
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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E-fans do not generally cool better than mechanical ones. The reverse is often true, in fact; the stock fan moves a LOT of air. The best thing to do would be a radiator upgrade.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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The front grille/airdam are pretty efficient about ramming enough air into the rad space; plenty enough airflow with a stock setup to keep the engine running proper temps even with AC on in sunny SoCal.

If you're having troubles keeping cool in BC, there's something up besides a need to augment air uptake. Clogged rad, failing fan clutch or thermostat, or other cooling impairment.

If you're just looking at it from a theory side, I think you'll find that the intake surface area represented by the stock grille area exceeds the total surface area of the fan swept circumference by a large amount.

My guess would be that vents in the valence wouldn't add any cooling capacity at all until you can move more air through the rad/shroud than can be sucked in (via the fan) or forced thru (via at-speed ram effect) the stock grille. If you wanted to test that, connecting a couple of sensitive vacuum/pressure guages to tubing in front of and behind the rad, and then testing for pressure difference while revving / driving, would tell the whole story for you.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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There is no reason you should be having cooling problems in Victoria. Even on a warm day I never go more that 1/4 of the way. My cooling system is essentially all stock. Installing a front mount oil cooler made a difference for me. With the beehive, I still wouldn't go more than 1/3.
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sgt Fox
There is no reason you should be having cooling problems in Victoria. Even on a warm day I never go more that 1/4 of the way. My cooling system is essentially all stock. Installing a front mount oil cooler made a difference for me. With the beehive, I still wouldn't go more than 1/3.
It has always sat at about 1/3 for me, but yesterday was insanely hot outside and it got to 1/2. So im now getting worried. I should check to see what my thermostat is rated for. Maybe toss a lower opening one it and flush the coolant system.

Oh and I should mention.. It was sitting at half when I had the heat blasting and was in traffic. Only went about 1/16th lower when i was cruising at about 60km/h

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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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If you have a front mount oil cooler, check the hoses. When I replaced mine,
the guage dropped from close to 1/2 to around 1/4. The old hoses were swollen and rough
in the inside which would impede oil cooler flow a lot. Made a huge difference.

Sounds like you have a cooling system issue for sure. Drain your coolant, flush things
and see if your radiator needs to be replaced. Replace all the hoses and tstat too.
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Rad cap is poo. that might have something to do with it.

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