1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

"Chipped" Side Seals

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-04-11, 09:47 PM
  #1  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
elwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Posts: 1,540
Received 24 Likes on 19 Posts
"Chipped" Side Seals

I pulled my motor apart because I lost compression, and I found I had warped apex seals. That's a fairly common problem, and I think I know the cause -- too much heat and too little pre-mix.

While I was going through all the other parts, I noticed that most of my side seals had a small chip. Effectively the tip of each seal that was in contact with the side housing was gone. I have seen this in pictures of other engines.

Is this common?

Is it a problem?

Is the cause known?

Since the clearances are good, I'm considering just flipping them over and reusing them, so the chipped side is down in the slot. No sense replacing replacing them if the same thing will immediately happen to new ones.
Attached Thumbnails "Chipped" Side Seals-side-seal-1_comp.jpg   "Chipped" Side Seals-side-seal-2_comp.jpg   "Chipped" Side Seals-side-seal-3_comp.jpg  
Old 05-05-11, 12:12 PM
  #2  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,891
Received 2,638 Likes on 1,868 Posts
is the engine ported?
Old 05-05-11, 12:49 PM
  #3  
Lapping = Fapping

iTrader: (13)
 
Jeff20B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 15,725
Received 74 Likes on 68 Posts
There could be small wear areas that were in contact with the spring. These all could add up to less compression over all. But if you're troubleshooting, yes go ahead and flip them. If it happens again we know your ports aren't beveled enough/properly.
Old 05-05-11, 01:48 PM
  #4  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
elwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Posts: 1,540
Received 24 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally Posted by j9fd3s
is the engine ported?
Yes, it was ported by MazdaTrix. I'll have to check and see if the corner seals are running across the ports. If they are, what should I do? Bevel the edge in the offending zone?
Old 05-05-11, 01:50 PM
  #5  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
elwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Posts: 1,540
Received 24 Likes on 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Jeff20B
There could be small wear areas that were in contact with the spring. These all could add up to less compression over all. But if you're troubleshooting, yes go ahead and flip them. If it happens again we know your ports aren't beveled enough/properly.
I don't understand. What small wear areas? Which spring?
Old 05-05-11, 08:01 PM
  #6  
Lapping = Fapping

iTrader: (13)
 
Jeff20B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 15,725
Received 74 Likes on 68 Posts
Side springs. They leave little wear marks on your side seals.
Old 05-05-11, 09:56 PM
  #7  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
diabolical1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: FL
Posts: 10,830
Received 307 Likes on 268 Posts
Originally Posted by elwood
Bevel the edge in the offending zone?
yes.
Old 05-06-11, 11:06 PM
  #8  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
elwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Posts: 1,540
Received 24 Likes on 19 Posts
Thanks everybody.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Th0m4s
Build Threads
25
02-26-19 02:04 AM
Snoopy FD
Build Threads
25
12-08-15 01:45 PM
sYnth.
Build Threads
0
08-19-15 06:27 PM



Quick Reply: "Chipped" Side Seals



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:52 PM.