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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Car stalls when coming to stops

Car is pretty new to me. I just finished rebuilding the brakes and they work great. Thing is though, it would die every time I would come to a stop. The car would just stall out. It wouldn't flood though.

The car was warmed up, and the choke was off. The only other point of interest is that the car is an automatic. I know the fluids in it need to be swapped out as it doesn't want to shift correctly.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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check out the vaccum lines, make sure they are all attached
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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check vacuume lines with starter fluid for leaks, the engine will speed up if it finds one.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Don't understand how that will cause the car to stall when you try to take off. That should make the idle high as well right?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Don't understand how that will cause the car to stall when you try to take off.
if you have broken/un-hooked/missing vaccum lines it will cause your car to stall when you come to a stop. did you originally mean when you take off from a stand-still?

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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There are lots of things that could cause this but I had a similar problem and it was my shutter valve. Take a look in the FAQ for "shutter valve".
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpncuba
if you have broken/un-hooked/missing vaccum lines it will cause your car to stall when you come to a stop. did you originally mean when you take off from a stand-still?

Does both. I am terribly sorry, I didn't say my problem correctly at all.

If i don't give it gas when I leave from a stop, it will stall. If I come to a stop, it will stall. Going to get the tranny serviced tommarrow and see if I can find a vac leak tonight.

Thanks for the help
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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don't worry about it

check out those vaccum lines and the shutter valve like inittab said. if those don't solve the problem hopefully longduck will chime in....
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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don't worry about it

check out those vaccum lines and the shutter valve like inittab said. if those don't solve the problem hopefully longduck will chime in....

Hopefully I can get this exchange server working today and troubleshoot that tonight. I will let everyone know what I find.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Hopefully I can get this exchange server working today and troubleshoot that tonight. I will let everyone know what I find.
Exchange server also has lots of vaccum leaks.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Exchange server also has lots of vaccum leaks.

Ha! Tell me about it.

If they would give me 20min with a linux server and cyrus-imap we could be done with this mess. NOOOO, must have their dang clustering. . . . .
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Torque converter could be sticking and engaging too quickly.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Fixed the stalling when going to a stop. Throttle sub-return was disconnected. Can't find any vac leaks, and she still stall when taking off from a stop.

If I give it a bit of gas (2k rpm) she takes off just fine. Any suggestions?
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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What's it idling at?
You should idle at 750-800, and if you richen it a bit, it might cure your problem.
Your brakes work really well? (Thinking booster.)
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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What's it idling at?
You should idle at 750-800, and if you richen it a bit, it might cure your problem.
Your brakes work really well? (Thinking booster.)
Brakes work excellently. I just did a complete overhaul on them. Idle is right below 800. Might try to richen it like you said.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Hmmmm. Band-aid, I think. Even if it's lean, @ 800 it shouldn't be stalling.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Well, here is what I have done so far, and what my plans are.

Done:
Redone entire brake system
Checked for Vac Leaks
Changed Plugs/wires
Set Timing correctly
Reconnected Throttle sub-return
Topped off fluids
Basic carb cleaning (b-12 rocks)

To be done:
Check the shudder valve (sorry, I forgot to check this)
Richen Idle
Get tranny serviced. Thing slips in 1st gear and shutters a bit
Pull off emissions crap (this weekend)

I do agree that richening the idle is a band-aid, altough With all the goofy things that this car has had wrong it would not suprise me if that fixed it. If this does not fix it, I might end up rebuilding the carb. Hope it cools off down here, my wife is going to kill me if I crack open another carb in the house. . .
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Shutter valve is toast. There is a vac leak someplace. Will update later.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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I was wondering about two things...But I see that you seem to have figured it out already. Just in case that isn't it though;

1. Have you checked the fluid level in the tranny?
2. Is the accelorator pump working correctly?
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Fluid level is slighly over the high level.

Don't know if the pump is working. I will look at testing that out.

I am going to do the rats nest removal this weekend to clean everything up and let me eliminate alot of potential leaks. This will remove the need for the shutter valve to work correct? As far as I can tell, nothing is connected except it to the butterfly after the removal.

Thanks for the help everyone. Alot of things have been checked out, and lots of things are getting fixed.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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Yeah, as long as the shutter valve isn't stuck in the closed position you should be fine leaving it in there. However, if you want to remove it, just pull the carb off and remove the little screws that hold it in then remove the shutter. That's how I did it, and I just left the shaft in there. Just make sure you don't strip the heads on the little screws and DON'T DROP THEM INTO THE MOTOR!!!

Also, when you do the rat's nest removal, do yourself a favor. Run down to Autozone and pick up an assortment pack of vacuum lines. They sell packs of colored silicone lines for under 20 bucks and I did all my lines and had some left over. They look nice and hold up well. Also, make sure that you use some type of sealant on your blockoff plates.

Good luck!
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Well, I got the rats nets off. It was still idleing at 1100. I think it was set way high though on the carb. I turned it down to 800, and it ran! No vac leaks at all, and everything seemed to work.

It didn't stall when I lifted off the brake to go forwards!

BUT (there is always a but isn't there?) the idle is very jumpy in gear. It will go down to 300 rpm and did stall out once.

What would be causing a jumpy idle?
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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I have the same problem with stalling I'm check out the stuff you did tomarow .... how hard was it to remove the nest
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Swap in a 5 speed. FIXED! Lol
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