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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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can we get somthing like this??

is there anyway to do it ourselves or make one of these work.....

http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?c...roductsID=6797
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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uhh...im serious.... i took the plastic cover off and on the forward part of the ebrake there are teeth and the spring loaded hammer that locks the ebrake up and i put a piece of aluminum sheet covering the teeth and it was able to go up and down but the metal falls off but i mean why not have somthing like this.......
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
is there anyway to do it ourselves or make one of these work.....

http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?c...roductsID=6797

Spin turn ****? Are you talking about something like this?

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t..._turn_knob.htm
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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I beleive it's so he can slam his tail end around into some random streetpole/pedestrian easier.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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you have the wrong idea jay..........im not stupid and go out on the streets........ im waiting untill Sept. for the next real event so i can practice in a controlled enviroment......
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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dude if you have to use the ebrake to drift a RWD then you suck and driving and need to get a civic
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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This is an old rally car trick.

IIRC, you simply unscrew the little spring loaded button on the front of the handle. The e-brake will drop rather than lock in the up position now. You will then need to manually push the little metal lock into the teeth when you pull the handle up and want it to lock into place.

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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Yea seriously if you have to use an ebrake to drift yor car.......I'm sorry thats sad. I mean come on! SERIOUSLY. I don't act like some high schooler I can drive cause I can go fast dumbass but please....Rusty......compadre......don't. Please even if it is in a controlled environment. RWD. Thats it. Thats all I'm saying. Go out and gas down foot off clutch it's not hard. I do it all the time.......Maybe thats why I don't have rear tires.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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also, 1st gen ebrakes = teh suck, and won't lock wheels unless you're driving on ice.

don't flame the guy, how is that going to help!

the ebrake though is simply not required very often on an RWD car to induce oversteer, there are easier ways involving the clutch and the gas, and just simple weight transfer.
with an FB, its REALLY easy since they tend to be balanced towards oversteer from the factory.

that said, another idea:
push your ebrake button IN and drill a hole though the entire end of the handle, going through the button. when you want it in "slide mode" just stick a pin through that and the button will be disabled. If you still want to do this.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrh
also, 1st gen ebrakes = teh suck, and won't lock wheels unless you're driving on ice.
This is true. My e-brake, although only working on 1 wheel, barely holds the car from rolling. If its this bad with one side working, I can't really see it being much better with both wheels working.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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gusse i will use one of those ways in order to do it...

the ebrake isnt really to make your car drift its to add more angle and maintain the angle of a drift while in mid-drift
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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I wasn't implying that drifting for race is bad. Oh, by no means
I was just implying that only newbs use the E-Brake to induce a drift on a RWD car. Through that, we can see that most newbs that drift do so on the street. Through that, we can see that You, Rusty, drift on the street.

BTW, if you're implying that you're going to attend a "Drift Event" you've lost my respect again, and you deserve that comment as being directed at you.

"Drifting" as a "Sport" has, in the past couple of years, insulted the great art of drifting in every way that it can. Us rally racers spit upon you "sport drifters."

The very idea that you people can possibly think of something like sliding around in circles as a "sport" is insulting in itself.

I watched some of that bullshit on T.V. the other day, and couldn't beleive it when the person that CROSSED THE LINE FIRST did NOT WIN! What the **** is wrong with you people?!
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Irony = drifters berating each other on driving skill.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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its drift day in a local mall lot..im doing it so its LEGAL and IM NOT ON THE STREET being a jackass hurting my car myself or others....((jays83gsl) Through that, we can see that most newbes that drift do so on the street. Through that, we can see that You, Rusty, drift on the street.) i dont drift on the street!!!

and yes i am a newbie at drifitng,auto-x, or other auto sports..SORRY that i am 16 and have just reached the age of being allowed to enter stuff like this.......

and i dont look at drifitng as a sport....who said it was???
i look at it as a art form of hard work and knowledge of not only knowing your car but also the enviroment your in
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Hammy-Come on, let's do a dirt course, me and you, you gripping, and me drifting, and let's see who finishes today.

Rusty- My bad, I was just making some ASSumptions.
Keep it clean, and try out some REAL drifting (on a dirt course) someday, you'll find it quite fun.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jays83gsl
I wasn't implying that drifting for race is bad. Oh, by no means
I was just implying that only newbs use the E-Brake to induce a drift on a RWD car. Through that, we can see that most newbs that drift do so on the street. Through that, we can see that You, Rusty, drift on the street.

BTW, if you're implying that you're going to attend a "Drift Event" you've lost my respect again, and you deserve that comment as being directed at you.

"Drifting" as a "Sport" has, in the past couple of years, insulted the great art of drifting in every way that it can. Us rally racers spit upon you "sport drifters."

The very idea that you people can possibly think of something like sliding around in circles as a "sport" is insulting in itself.

I watched some of that bullshit on T.V. the other day, and couldn't beleive it when the person that CROSSED THE LINE FIRST did NOT WIN! What the **** is wrong with you people?!
I, in no way, am not trying to inhibit an argument with you on this. (Because you've helped me out on some of my problems [+respect towards you].)

I find it ironic how sliding in circles cannot be considered a sport, but driving 200 mph around a circle is. In rally, it's A to B with sliding...

Motorsports are motorsports. Any sanctioned event including a motorized vehicle is motorsports. Sadly, lawn tractors are included.

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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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I am also against ring racing, by the way. Actually, there are very few non rally racing events that I like. (Autocross and a GOOD road course)

The thing about sliding around the ring ("sport drifting") is that they don't judge on who finishes first, but rather on "how good" the person slides.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Hammy-Come on, let's do a dirt course, me and you, you gripping, and me drifting, and let's see who finishes today.

Rusty- My bad, I was just making some ASSumptions.
Keep it clean, and try out some REAL drifting (on a dirt course) someday, you'll find it quite fun.

my sisters x raced gokarts at some local clay track doing like 60+ along with some shifters carts showing off once in awhile....so no lie its fun but i never got the chance to drive his cart even though his family offered me their extra cart so i could practice and soon race...

we got a cop to radar his cart on the road and it was just under 110mph before he craked the head.....but his yard cart with the old engine on it flies since all his carts run on either aochol or methanol
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Rusty, first take the button off, drill a hole in the top just a little smaller then the screw that you will put into it, get a fender washer at the hardware store that will work with diameter of the screw, next remove the spring in the ebrake. Install the screw and washer in the top of your button and then reattach the button to your ebrake. Now if you push up with your thumb, the ebrake is locked, depress the button(it stays down now) and you can move the ebrake handle anytime and it won't lock. Next, jack up the rear and remove both the rear wheels, find the ebrake cable connection and readjust your cable till it engages fairly quick.
This is my solution till I finish the fabbing of my hydraulic ebrake lever. Don't let any of these poser's tell you that using the ebrake for drifting is weak, watch the "in car" camera's at D1 or Option Video's and the pro's use the ebrake all the time. Never listen to poser's, just do what the pro's do and practice.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Forgot one thing you will need to remove the hand brake handle pad, twist it 15-30 degrees and pull it off. The button will not fully disengage untill you take the handle pad off.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrh
also, 1st gen ebrakes = teh suck, and won't lock wheels unless you're driving on ice.
Never had a problem in my SA. Could lock them at 50mph. You need to depress the clutch first...

the ebrake though is simply not required very often on an RWD car to induce oversteer, there are easier ways involving the clutch and the gas, and just simple weight transfer.
I can think of some rallycrosses where a working handbrake would have been useful. Weight transfer doesn't mean **** if you're only going 25-30mph and there isn't enough traction to get any weight transfer before locking the front wheels. Or not even enough traction to slow down to any appreciable degree. (Damn, it'd be nice if rotaries had any useful engine braking...) In this case you pretty much just plow straight off the road, unless you have a pendulum going from a prior turn. No luck if you're coming off of a straight. Took five minutes for the tractor to pull me out of the soup

Dirt/gravel/mud is different from pavement, though. It's not oversteer, it's getting some rotation in before the actual corner because you can't count on the front wheels to do much for you in the way of initiating your arc. You're still "gripping" the road, the problem is the road keeps moving out from under you.

I've never had a problem with the handbrake button. That's what opposable thumbs are for.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Cool Pic's of my setup

Here's my ghetto button and cockpit setup for drift.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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which seat is that? i have been looking at the cheap one they have..forgot the name..and cant find it..but im also interested in these seats
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOMO-...spagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOMO-...spagenameZWDVW
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