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camden dyno pull

Old Oct 6, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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I was admiring how clean your car is and noticed you have a rally nice lawn! Haha no for real your car looks mint!
And so does your lawn!
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Nice numbers man, the car looks good. The scoop adds to the car. There's a few roots type blowers on 13b's making power in the 340 to 360 range using GM 4-71's not the Camden. One is a RX4 if I remember right. What boost are you running? If I ever find a job I can get mine finished to see how the water to air worked out.
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rotordad
There's a few roots type blowers on 13b's making power in the 340 to 360 range using GM 4-71's not the Camden. One is a RX4 if I remember right.
You mean something like this





or this



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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rotordad
Nice numbers man, the car looks good. The scoop adds to the car. There's a few roots type blowers on 13b's making power in the 340 to 360 range using GM 4-71's not the Camden. One is a RX4 if I remember right. What boost are you running? If I ever find a job I can get mine finished to see how the water to air worked out.
12 psi ...... love to see what your can do with the cooler..
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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Yeah like the top one, I think the bottom pics are a Camden with a cog belt & pulley set up. I actually was looking into trying something similar, just to help prevent belt slippage. The RX4 I remember was an orange coupe & a blue R100. I'm glad your project is moving along nicely.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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I removed a 7" Camden from a friend's REPU. The rotors are damaged. One is missing aluminum while the other had some aluminum deposited on it. The inside of the intake manifold and the port runners in the engine are coated with a fine gray aluminum powder.

This is the second time this SC has had this type of failure. It has always had a -8 pulley (nothing wrong with that). Always had good oil pressure and volume. It also always tended to slip under any kind of load. We're going to see about getting a warranty replacement or something. These shouldn't fail like this.

I can take pics if you're interested.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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are you talk the blower rotor...that y i got rid of my camden the rotors start to make contact after 15000 miles. i use s5 turbos now. i never looked back............
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Same thing happened to me, it was due to a cheap *** roll pin holding one of the drive gears in place. I now use tsubaki clamps on both gears and torque them every second year.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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This is a really impressive setup you have going on here. I'm going to send a friend of mine this link so he can hopefully take the hint.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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This is similar to the right type of clamp to use for the drive gears.

The system works in cast iron and steel hubs, anywhere the traditional taper bushing system is used - V Belt pulleys, timing pulleys, couplings, sprockets, sheaves, etc. Impervious to reversing loads, not susceptible to vibrating loose
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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That's a cool looking clamp. I'll see if I can get some pictures later.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Here is a better look at the actual clamps

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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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So those are the special clamps installed? Interesting. Looks like they'd be a good idea because your gears are slant cut. It seems Atkins began changing these to straight cut in '01 after they bought the company.

I won't remove the end caps as this is not my Camden to mess with. We live close to Atkins so we'll let them deal with it. I'll see about snapping a pic of the damaged rotors, at least. I'll post it later this evening.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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I have the same clamps installed on my straight cut gears on the 7"....Those are on my 5". Let me know what Atkins has to say please, I have an extra straight cut gear set machined for the clamps. And if only one rotor is toast I may have a good rotor too...
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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I talked to Dyers about the slant cut gears and he likes them because you can fine tune the rotor gap even better by shimming the rotors, so I got some shims from atkins and voila!! BTW, they have always been very good to me.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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Ok I have a few minutes to post the pictures.





Attached Thumbnails camden dyno pull-7c01.jpg   camden dyno pull-7c02.jpg   camden dyno pull-7c03.jpg  
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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We both had very similar curves, especially with torque. I would attest one key impact on the difference being the exhaust, as it truly makes a big difference.
I'm confused by this statement. Dave was running the RacingBeat long primary "streetport" system, aren't you as well?..
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
I'm confused by this statement. Dave was running the RacingBeat long primary "streetport" system, aren't you as well?..
I am running the roadrace exhaust, so yep, same exhaust. i feel I made more power due to the higher cfm capacity of my carb combined with the methanol providing the opportunity to add timing.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Jeff20b, ouch! Just saw your pics, way worse then the contact mine made. Definite shrapnel injection. My buddy passed a carb stud "through" his. I asked where his carb stud went as the hood was the only thing holding the air cleaner down. He had no idea however the rotors had perfect indentations including threads of the stud, motor never even missed a beat. I can only bet it got pressed into one rotor and lost a bit of the stud at a time. A miracle!


Bet if you pull the cover off to look you'll see a clamp on the right gear and a simple roll pin through the other like mine had. Out of warranty!! The roll pin broke! It was a cheap solution to using two clamps which Andy quickly corrected, however there a a few running around like this.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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This SC was built by Gary Brooks back in late '01 or some time in '02 so it might be one of their early 7 inchers.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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Close to the time mine was built too......I think I got mine in spring 2004
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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I have an interesting question concerning supercharger and the E-shafts thrust bearings. In the "Street Rotary" Book, there's a page concerning supercharger on rotary's and the last paragraph of that say:
"Belt-Driven superchargers can also stress and distort the front shaft extension of the eccentric shaft, especially at high engine speeds on older rotary engines. The later model rotary engine (i.e. 1992 and later) utulize larger diameter thrust bearings that can resist the bending loads imparted by the supercharger more effectively than earlier engines.
Has anyone seen any issues with this? Anything to help it if it does Occur? Would lightening everything off of it (i.e. making aluminum pulleys) take some of that load off? Or is this mostly a concerning with running gilmer driver belts? Lastly I plan on putting a spring loaded tensioner on mine would going too high in spring tension make this matter worse?
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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No issues here
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The other thing too ... is it much worse than say having your airpump, air conditioner, and power steering all hooked up? I have all those removed and I don't think that a single unit could put more loss than 3.
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