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Brakes: Ultimate upgrade - Wilwood 310mm on first gen. Pics included!

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:19 AM
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Brakes: Ultimate upgrade - Wilwood 310mm on first gen. Pics included!

Hey all,

These arrived today:

Before pic:



Size comparison:



Afterwards:




Wilwood 310mm vented & slotted front disks.
Wilwood "Supalite" 4-pot alloy race calipers.
Custom billet steel hubs, 84-85 model spindle and bearing with 5x114.3 PCD.
Wilwood semi-metallic racing pads.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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uhhhhhhhh ..... thats gonna be insane!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:44 AM
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so basically you want your passengers faces to be stuck in your dash?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:02 AM
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wow....just wow..

i think i wet myself.

im getting an respeed kit that puts the 2nd gen 4pot on the fb. hope it looks half as good as that.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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so basically you want your passengers faces to be stuck in your dash?
Well, braking performance is only ever as good as your tyres. This was an (expensive) attempt to stop brake fade. I'm not going widebody, so in a straight line it probably won't stop very much faster than an original brake setup. From 120mph to zero, then back to 120mph, then back to zero, you'll notice the difference
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:24 AM
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damn sexy...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:55 AM
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brake fade? from my experience the stock brakes on FB's suck in general. i recently put on new pads, changed fluid and had the discs milled which helped a lot... still compared to other sports cars ive driven or owned the FB is a damn weak braking machine.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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best breaking car i have ever had was a protege, my neck has never been the same since i pressed the break in that car, its almost to good
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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what size wheel are required to fit around those?
how much did that cost and where did you source all the parts?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Very nice.

Just a simple refresh on the brake system helped a ton for me.

New rotors and Hawk pads make it stop one hell of alot faster.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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How much did the Wilwood 310mm cost you and where did you get them? It looks nice on your car.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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you guys don't know braking till you take out an audi .... i took out the s4 yesterday for a sping the thing has 13" front brake calipers and 11" rear ... and its a dual stage braking system, i looked at the caliper and i was like ... you know that front rotor is just as big as my wheels on my rx-7? lol
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by skrewloose78
what size wheel are required to fit around those?
how much did that cost and where did you source all the parts?
I've been told I might be able to find a 16" rim that will clear, but most likely I'll need to go 17".

US$2200-ish all inclusive. I used a race tuning company in NZ to do all the fabrication and machining, and the components were ordered directly from Wilwood in California.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_Valjean
I've been told I might be able to find a 16" rim that will clear, but most likely I'll need to go 17".

US$2200-ish all inclusive. I used a race tuning company in NZ to do all the fabrication and machining, and the components were ordered directly from Wilwood in California.
Thats INSANE!!!!! I would NEVER pay that much for brakes on a road car. Now you gotta get new wheels and rubber too, at probably another $3000 depending on what you get. There are other cheaper ways to get similar performance.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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What's the weight difference between the two?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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So if you have 2200 in the brakes what do you have/are going to hav into the engine?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Thats INSANE!!!!! I would NEVER pay that much for brakes on a road car. Now you gotta get new wheels and rubber too, at probably another $3000 depending on what you get. There are other cheaper ways to get similar performance.
Ok firstly, the US$ has been crap lately - roll back a couple of years and adjusting the exchange rate, it's more like US$1600.

The wheels and tyres probably won't cost more than US$1500. I'm not interested in cheap ways to get similar performance, I've already spent US$30k on this car, why would I want to cut costs when it comes to brakes?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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So if you have 2200 in the brakes what do you have/are going to hav into the engine?
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/550-bhp-13b-t-fb-pics-included-439071/
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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What's the weight difference between the two?
Minimal, the RX units were cast iron, and these are steel. Even though they're a lot bigger, the material is lighter so it all balances out. I'd be suprised if there was any more than a couple of pounds difference per side.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Just curious why did you fab your own kit? What didn’t you like about the 7’s only kit?

Anyway, Welcome to the big brake club!

Here are some pictues of my 7's only kit.

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/there-comes-time-when-zoom-zoom-must-stop-298428/
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/ultimate-1st-gen-brakes-teaser-pix-416794/

Did you keep the stock master? Anyway loos nice!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Hey not knocking on you just giving you props...there is only good things to say about you passengers face print in the dash.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Also one heck of an engine I must have over looked that one
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Just curious why did you fab your own kit? What didn’t you like about the 7’s only kit?

Anyway, Welcome to the big brake club!

Here are some pictues of my 7's only kit.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=298428
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=416794

Did you keep the stock master? Anyway loos nice!
Those look nice man

I wanted to deal with a company based in my own country, to preserve consumer rights etc. I'm using a S4 (TII) master cylinder and booster with aftermarket bias valve, standard hard and soft brake lines.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Very Nice. How about some pics of the car?

Let us know what you end up doing for the Master.
Oh, and that T-78 will not get you 550 rwhp at 15 psi at 7000 RPM.

You're gonna need more boost than that. But it's do-able.

EDIT:

I just realized you posted Flywheel HP. Then the odds are pretty good.

Last edited by Directfreak; Sep 14, 2005 at 06:42 PM.
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Well i give you an atta boy. good job
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