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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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BIG starting problem

i need help because im helping paposwing14 because his 85 GSL wont start, theres spark, theres fuel. the thing is that the leading spark plugs are good but the trailing ones are wet. and it try to start when i have it floored. i check if the wires are cross but they are not. he had problems before that his car wont start but i could get it running once i clean the spark plugs, but it today didnt work. i didnt do the ATF deal because i heard bad about it latelly. and the engine sound that have alot of compression. can please somebody help here please? thanks
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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its super flooded!
pushstart it, it will run, otherwise you will be cleaning the sparkplugs off alot before it will start!
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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Check that the trailing ignition is actually sparking also. Since the leading are dry (burning off the fuel), but the trailing are wet (not burning off the fuel), it leads me to think that the trailing isnt sparking.

But, as 680 said, definatly try and un-flood it. Its not gonna hurt anything .

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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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i push started and did everything i check spark in every spark plug and all of them have a good strong spark.like i say i try everything any others ideas?
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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no .......if it didnt start you didnt pushstart it right!Rotary motors are different, here is how to do it,,,,

1 put the car in 2nd gear
1a make sure the ignition switch is on!
2 do not push the cluth in, leave it out
3 push with another car, or pull its up to you
4 do not stop pushing until the car starts!!!!

if the car is flooded bad this is what you will need to do!!
this will work!
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by 680RWHP12A
no .......if it didnt start you didnt pushstart it right!Rotary motors are different, here is how to do it,,,,

1 put the car in 2nd gear
1a make sure the ignition switch is on!
2 do not push the cluth in, leave it out
3 push with another car, or pull its up to you
4 do not stop pushing until the car starts!!!!

if the car is flooded bad this is what you will need to do!!
this will work!
we push, i had it down hill going 40mph, nothing, try to start but no fire im gonna try again tomorow by pulling it.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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my dad pulled mine with the jeep we have and about 30 feet it fixed the flooding and started and i drove it back and all day today till it flooded again... damn floats!
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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also put ATF in there that helps build up some compression... i had to put atf in a fc 5 times and spin hell outa it...with the plugs out.... after 3 hours i finnally got her to unflood and get her fired up... itsmoked for over and hour
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 11:50 PM
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If you still have cats and care about killing spark plugs, use Marvel Mystery Oil instead of ATF. I don't know why people always insist on ATF. It will foul the plugs much faster, and if you still have cats, it will eventually destroy them. MMO does the same exact thing, without the bad effects of ATF.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by coldy13
If you still have cats and care about killing spark plugs, use Marvel Mystery Oil instead of ATF. I don't know why people always insist on ATF. It will foul the plugs much faster, and if you still have cats, it will eventually destroy them. MMO does the same exact thing, without the bad effects of ATF.
yeah i know that why i didnt put ATF on it because he still have the cats. were do you get that oil?
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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Thanx guy!

We are trying with the car but its not wanting to work with us, this after noon we arer going to take the carb out and check all the lines I know the secondaries were not opening and now since it will only try to start with the peddle floured maybe now its opisite. well it does have spark and fuel, Im thinking of buying webers and the hell with this Nikki **** LOL!
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by eddierotary
yeah i know that why i didnt put ATF on it because he still have the cats. were do you get that oil?
Eddie, go to Wal-Mart or Autozone. You can get a gallon of MMO for like 10 bucks. Or get the smaller size if you want. It has got to be the best stuff ever made.

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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i just had the same problem.my carb was flooding.sometimes it wouldn't start so i would take the plugs off and clean them.after that it would start.until one day it was hard to start after cleaning them.when it finally did it sounded like it was runing off one rotor.it was.the only way to fix that is to change your plugs.it will fix your problem.
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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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this is good for newbies that doesnt know sometime whats wrong with their cars. the problem was the inside of the catalitic converter was melted that why is was causing that was flooding and the secondary doesnt open. what we did is that we gutted out the cat, i dont recomend this because it get louder but it fixed the problem now it start fast and run better and the secondary opens. thanks
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