Best Adhesive for Side Trim?
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yea i was thinking ,maybe silicon, but i dunno how hard itll be to hold the trim in place while it dries. guess ill figure something out though, i have some black trim glue, but its mainly for small lightweight trim, not the huge heavy trim off the 7's, ill try it too if the silicon doesnt work
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I used the stuff RacerX7fb shows and it works perfectly, you can cut it in really tight with a razor blade. Get the wide stuff (about 1"). If you get it from Wal Mart it will be about half as much as from a car parts store.
Stick it to the back of the side molding first, then cut around the outside with the razor blade. Peal the other side of the tape and stick it on. Be sure to line it up carefully before pressing it on, it's not coming off easily.
Ray
Stick it to the back of the side molding first, then cut around the outside with the razor blade. Peal the other side of the tape and stick it on. Be sure to line it up carefully before pressing it on, it's not coming off easily.
Ray
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If I can add to this.
If you heat your side trim up a little bit with a heat gun or a hair dryer the tape will stick to it even better. As well as when you are going to put it on the car make sure the surface is nice and warm for the best adhesion.
Also you will find that if your trim has been hanging for a while it will be naturally bent. The heat gun or hair dryer will allow you bend the moldings back into the right shape.
I used the 1/2 inch stuff one strip on top and one strip on bottom. Been on for almost a year and no problems.
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If you heat your side trim up a little bit with a heat gun or a hair dryer the tape will stick to it even better. As well as when you are going to put it on the car make sure the surface is nice and warm for the best adhesion.
Also you will find that if your trim has been hanging for a while it will be naturally bent. The heat gun or hair dryer will allow you bend the moldings back into the right shape.
I used the 1/2 inch stuff one strip on top and one strip on bottom. Been on for almost a year and no problems.
Jay
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Last edited by jfachner72; 04-13-06 at 03:29 PM.
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used the 3m molding tape, and no go, i guess its the fact the back of the trim is slightly dry rotted and has a lot of air pockets and cracks and the tape just wouldnt stick for ****. cleaned it really well, scraped old glue and tape off for almost an hour, cleaned it with paint thinner to get any oil or greese off of it. stuff wouldnt stick. guess its on to 2ply epoxy
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Not sure if this is helpful, but it may be interesting to you...
3M ST1200 is applied to extruded polymers during the manufacturing process; and heat aids the adhesive property. PT1100 is used on smaller pieces that are molded. Keep in mind that this is used on "new" stock. Heptane or IPA is often used as a pre-cleaner.
I am pretty sure that the side moldings were extruded and the endcap details were molded in a secondary process. So, maybe prep with IPA or heptane. Then, try the ST1200 rolled through a manual-crank tight-clearance ringer-type device and a heatgun. We do this on prototype thermoplastic products.
3M ST1200 is applied to extruded polymers during the manufacturing process; and heat aids the adhesive property. PT1100 is used on smaller pieces that are molded. Keep in mind that this is used on "new" stock. Heptane or IPA is often used as a pre-cleaner.
I am pretty sure that the side moldings were extruded and the endcap details were molded in a secondary process. So, maybe prep with IPA or heptane. Then, try the ST1200 rolled through a manual-crank tight-clearance ringer-type device and a heatgun. We do this on prototype thermoplastic products.
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Originally Posted by FCKing1995
used the 3m molding tape, and no go, i guess its the fact the back of the trim is slightly dry rotted and has a lot of air pockets and cracks and the tape just wouldnt stick for ****. cleaned it really well, scraped old glue and tape off for almost an hour, cleaned it with paint thinner to get any oil or greese off of it. stuff wouldnt stick. guess its on to 2ply epoxy
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Paint thinner is your problem. It leaves a film and the adhesive will not bond to it. The foam strip should have enough 'squish' to mate to a slightly irregular surface. Both mating surfaces must be absolutely clean for good bonding and longevity. Laquer thinner, MEK, acetone will work, but you must be careful of the paint as some of these are too 'hot' for the paint and can soften it. Your best option is wax and grease remover from your autobody paint supplier. Lacquer thinner and 0000 steel wool works great for cleaning up the moulding off the car. On the car, paint thinner or mineral spirts are a better choice. Be sure to mask off the paint when using the steel wool on the car. Mothers Back to Black works great returning the moulding to a new condition.
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3m double sided tape is definitely the way to hold it on. I had a piece fall off mine too. Here's the process I followed (which worked 120% perfect)
Clean molding with acetone. Note that acetone melts a little (microns) of the plastic, so make sure you only get it on the back side. Many paper towels later the molding will be clean.
Clean side of car with a degreasing agent. Make it 100% grease/oil free.
Apply two layers of 3m tape. I noticed the factory sticky tape was slightly thicker than the 3m, that's why I put two layers.
Heat the molding and the side of the car with a hair dryer until good and warm.
Apply the molding, press it firmly in place for a couple of minutes, and put large pieces of masking tape across the molding. Leave overnight, and remove masking tape.
Done, but I defy you to get it back off again!
Clean molding with acetone. Note that acetone melts a little (microns) of the plastic, so make sure you only get it on the back side. Many paper towels later the molding will be clean.
Clean side of car with a degreasing agent. Make it 100% grease/oil free.
Apply two layers of 3m tape. I noticed the factory sticky tape was slightly thicker than the 3m, that's why I put two layers.
Heat the molding and the side of the car with a hair dryer until good and warm.
Apply the molding, press it firmly in place for a couple of minutes, and put large pieces of masking tape across the molding. Leave overnight, and remove masking tape.
Done, but I defy you to get it back off again!
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