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Old 07-17-02, 07:34 PM
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about some lowering springs

Ah, how I love putting money into this car


Anyway, got some new 60 series tires and now it looks a little off and I was hoping for some good places to buy 1.0 inch lowering springs.
I was wondering about how much I will have to pay for a set of 4

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you could just cut your springs, but I don't know how safe that is. There are a few people who have done this, and they sound ok... I dunno though...

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lets see some pix of peoples cars with lowering springs so we can compare the stance and lowering.
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cutting springs can be very dangerous and detrimental to the performance of the spring. Instead I highly recommend buying either lowering springs or performance springs such as Eibach.
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Eibach, Suspension Techniques, Racing Beat and Tokico are the only ones that I know about, and that was in just the order that I remembered them, so I'm not saying any is better than the other. I used the RB springs a few years back, and to be honest, I didn't REALLY notice a difference in the car's stance or ultimate performance, but the springs were the only things I changed, so ... it was probably not an optimal setup.

you should be able them anywhere from $200-320 for the set of 4 ... don't know the best place to buy 'em ...

maybe try www.nopi.com and see what they're prices are like
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Originally posted by 82streetracer
lets see some pix of peoples cars with lowering springs so we can compare the stance and lowering.
RB springs/Tokico blues with 0 miles on them in the pictures.





I think I'd like the back to be lower, however I still have only put like 5 miles on them, so maybe they will compress with driving like my ST springs did on the FC
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A bunch of forum members had trouble with fitment with the Tokios...
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TMC cs-400 will lower your car an inch, are the springs used for Spec 7 racing and costs $139 for all four.

Such a deal...
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hey, speaking of which, is the front suspension on a '19 GS have more travel than the back? when I jacked one side of my car off the ground today, the back fully extended is like 4" higher off the ground than the front. (the front is almost touching, and the back is like 5" off the ground) Is this normal?

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Originally posted by Keaponlaffen
hey, speaking of which, is the front suspension on a '19 GS have more travel than the back? when I jacked one side of my car off the ground today, the back fully extended is like 4" higher off the ground than the front. (the front is almost touching, and the back is like 5" off the ground) Is this normal?

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Thats normal, a solid axle rear/IFS car will do that. If you were to jack one side of an FC up, both wheels on one side would travel roughly the same due to it having 4 wheel independent suspension.
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"TMC cs-400 will lower your car an inch, are the springs used for Spec 7 racing and costs $139 for all four."
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What are TMC cs-400? I have never heard of them. Where do you buy them? Also, anyone using gforce products? This is the stuff Paw Yaul recommends- http://www.gforceengineering.net/
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Keep in mind that 1" lowering springs will probably RAISE your car. 1" lower means 1" lower versus brand-new ride height. The springs have had at least 17 years to settle. Mine is so low with stock springs that the tires are about even with the fender lips.

Also keep in mind that the suspension not only loses travel when you lower, but the rear suspension likes to bind in corners when it's lower than stock ride height. This is quite bad for handling, unless you like uncontrolled snap-oversteer.
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My car is the same way, the front is way low! When I jack up the car to put jack stands under it the tires dont even leave the ground..i supposed thats because my shocks are crap. Even though...thing still handles better than any other car I know
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Originally posted by Keaponlaffen
hey, speaking of which, is the front suspension on a '19 GS have more travel than the back? when I jacked one side of my car off the ground today, the back fully extended is like 4" higher off the ground than the front. (the front is almost touching, and the back is like 5" off the ground) Is this normal?

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Originally posted by peejay
Keep in mind that 1" lowering springs will probably RAISE your car. 1" lower means 1" lower versus brand-new ride height. The springs have had at least 17 years to settle.
I recently replaced mine with Eibach Springs, Tokico Illumina 5 ways, New Poly bushings, and a Racing Beat Front Sway Bar.

I am about 3/4" to 1" higher than it was with the stock (and tired) suspension.

Rides muuuuch better (no more bottoming out) and looks better.

Oh, Here's my Tokico Illumina Mod, to adjust the rear shocks on a moment's notice, without having to take out the rear panels. I am going to cover them with a similar painted grommet in the future.

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those racinbeat springs look like crap. Im sure they perform well but I am looking to get the edge of my tire next to the fender lip. I CANT STAND FENDER GAP.

Look at AJC13Bs 7 he has the perfect example of what I want my suspension to do.
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Thanx for the Pix Felix, lets get some pix with some other springs. I am looking specifically for Suspension Tech or tokico if someone has pix of a car with this setup.
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DirectFreak - Hey, looks like my car in the top pic! And by the way... Nice Duct Tape!

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Originally posted by Directfreak
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I recently replaced mine with Eibach Springs, Tokico Illumina 5 ways, New Poly bushings, and a Racing Beat Front Sway Bar.

I am about 3/4" to 1" higher than it was with the stock (and tired) suspension.

Rides muuuuch better (no more bottoming out) and looks better.

Oh, Here's my Tokico Illumina Mod, to adjust the rear shocks on a moment's notice, without having to take out the rear panels. I am going to cover them with a similar painted grommet in the future.
Say Directfreak....how much did all that setup cost you? I am looking to so something similar to the Mound, it also has tired 18 year old suspension. Was looking at nearly the same components...how is the ride, as well as the handling? What Bushings did you get eh?

Right on.
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Hey AZ,
Here are a couple firms that sells the TMC springs.http://www.rotaryperformance.com/pages/page19.html

or

http://www.daveturner.com/rx-7.html

I picked up Jim Susko's set up manual and it is great. I highly recommend it. All he parts I have picked up from Jim have been RIGHT ON, I have to recommend that as well.

Good luck.
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thanks for the advice, but 3 questions (fyi the springs where changed at 67k)

1. so if i removed the springs now and they are lower than the "lowered" springs, wouldn't that help the preformance?

2. about how long does it take if you do it yourself?

3. are the tmc's at rotoraryperformance.com for all 4?


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Full GC setup for Pro7 just installed - shown with 60 series tires...





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Originally posted by Keaponlaffen
DirectFreak - Hey, looks like my car in the top pic! And by the way... Nice Duct Tape!

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What Duct tape? That's the sunroof strap in the picture.

Originally posted by brownmound
Say Directfreak....how much did all that setup cost you? I am looking to so something similar to the Mound, it also has tired 18 year old suspension. Was looking at nearly the same components...how is the ride, as well as the handling? What Bushings did you get eh?

Right on.
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Front 5507.14 shox.com
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Rear 5507.14 shox.com
Tokico Illumuna 5-way Adjustable Shocks - Front BZ1069 shox.com
Tokico Illumuna 5-way Adjustable Shocks - Rear BE2317 shox.com
Energy Suspension PolyEurethane Bushings (EVERYTHING) Order by Phone P-S-T.com

If I remember correctly, it was like $700 for the works.
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Originally posted by Directfreak


What Duct tape? That's the sunroof strap in the picture.

Ugh, my bad.... sorry too early...


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Thanks Kill No Cone, Has anyone have any info on the coil over's that Jim Susko's has listed on his site? I have e-mailed him a couple times about his new header that is comming out later this year, he is a real nice and smart guy, but forgot about asking about the coil-overs


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