Stepdaddy

Alright, about a year ago i was racing my car on the streets, it started to over heat b/c of a broke radiator hose..i took care of that and it started and i drive it about 10 miles, everything was ok untill ethe next morning...it wouldnt start. it sat and sat and ive been trying to get it going. ive taken out the plugs and they were shot as ****. went to advanced and bought some new ones i get them tomarrow but anyways, when i had the plugs out i turned it over for a while... commpression sounds great to me since it has 150k and all compresion noise was the same, the only thing was when i was turniong it over a little smoke came out of the plug holes..is that normal since its been sitting for a little bit? Anyways i know something isnt right since it started fine the day after the overheating and everything else seems fine..what steps do you sugest i do to try and bring the engine back to life...im trying to do this cheep since im poor and id rather put my money into a new engine than trying to rebuild the old one.

Stepdaddy

car make is a 1985 12a stock

Suparslinc

so the car has been sitting for one year and you are just now trying to get it started?

If the engine spins freely and "sounds" good its probably a combination of bad gas and ignition; thats where I would start.

Stepdaddy

alright lets say it hasnt been started in a year, a week after it didnt start i took it to a shop, they changed the oil and i think that was abou it..they didnt know were to start..anyways ive been turning the engine over more than twice a month it just dosnt go...ill get some new gas and what do you mean by ignition?

damon

are you getting spark to the leading and trailing plugs?

have you tried the atf trick?

have you turned it over with a plug in it ? if so when your dont turning it over take a plug out and see if it is wet. if so you are flooded.

peace

Stepdaddy

I get my new plugs tomarrow, when i took the old ones out they were down right nasty..i cleaned them and tried turning it over and sounds the same...ATF trick is puttin automatic trany fluid in the spark plug holes and turn the rotors every few hours or so right? ill try that if the new plugs dont work....finding spark from the leading and trailing would be done how...

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

After you finally confirm you have spark and fuel, and it still doesn't start..

Push it with another car to about 30 mph, and drop it 3rd gear trying to push start it.

Stepdaddy

this will all be done tomarrow...were should i hook the tie down on my 7? the last thing i want is to rip something right off it

Suparslinc

there is a towing hook underneath the front bumper.

Strider

You won't get smoke out the spark plug holes when you turn it over, but you should get fog from atomized gasoline being pumped out the holes.

Gas can go bad in just a few months, especially if there is any organic contamination (did you know that there is an algae that thrives on diesel and gasoline?). If it evaporates out of your carb it will leave behind a sludge of varnish that will plug up jets and float bowl valves.

Take off your air cleaner from the carb altogether. Find the drains for the float bowls and drain that crap gas out of the carb. If you are lucky you haven't gummed it up. When you get new gas, make sure that the float bowl is only half full through the little windows on the front and rear of the carb body. If you see liquid gas at all in the primaries after cranking, like maybe even dripping out the jets, then it is flooding.

There are only three things you need to make the motor run, spark, proper fuel/air mixture, and compression. Do the ATF/MMO treatment and you should get your compression back. Check the spark (CAREFULLY! I've seen someone try testing a spark plug by cranking and grounding it in the vicinity of the hole that ignited the fuel fog pumping out of the spark plug hole.)

That leaves the carby. Gummed up jets require a good carb rebuild. I'm assuming that you still have the stock Niki carb, and I recently rebuilt mine.

There is one other remote possibility, and that is the rubber hose behind the carb that goes to the air valve, the one that always splits. That could prevent your motor from starting, and it is subjected to a lot of heat which degrades it.

Stepdaddy

Thank you for the info im going outside and ganna try some things now...

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

PUSH it, DON'T PULL IT. You are asking for two wrecked cars that way.

Push the 7 with another car to about 30 mph.
Then stop the push car,
Let the 7 keep Rolling,
and drop the clutch in third to push start.

If you do it with pulling, the bucking 7 (while trying to start) might damage the other car or itself. Also if it starts, you need to keep reving and going with the car to clean itself out.

Suparslinc

well i pulled my '7 it just requires not being a dumbass

mar3

iTrader: (8)

You've changed the plugs by now, right? Just pour a small cup's worth of ATF down the carb, make sure you've got plenty of juice for a steady and fast spin for at least a minute. Have another car running and use jumper cables. Put the air cleaner base back on and spin the engine for 5 seconds. Saturate the air filter with canned starting fluid from a parts store and put the air cleaner assembly back together. You should have already confirmed the fuel pump was in good working order, not assumed it is since it was working when the car stopped and changed the fuel filter prior to all this. Crank that puppy and stand back when it lights up. You'll clear the neighborhood of all mosquitos when she does fire up. Have fun!!

Stepdaddy

Note to self: when picking up spark plugs at auto zone get/ order fuel filter

Stepdaddy

Today i got my plugs, fuel filter, and ATF...today im going to get the car im the garage jack her up, drain all liquids..put my filter in and fill it back up..fresh gas, oil, oil filter, and anti freeze...if it dosnt start i also have ATF! and some mystery oil..ill do the atf and if that fails im ganna pull it try and jump start it...if the steps im about to take are wrong or in the wrong order plz let me know...thanx for past advice and future

Stepdaddy

Stepdaddy

****..the last thing i wanna do is foul 4 more plugs, mabey i should just wait till everything is changed then do the atf trick then replace the new plugs...does this sound like a better idea?

Stepdaddy

bump/help

Strider

That's exactly right. Take a wire brush to your old plugs to clean them so they will fire. After you burn off all the smoke from the ATF treatment, then you can install the new plugs.

DON'T try to start it up anywhere near your open garage! The smoke will soon fill it.

BTW, its best to add about a table spoon of atf at a time, spin the motor with the plugs out, add some more, until you are pretty sure that you have a nice film of it distributed throughout the rotors. Let it sit overnight for the atf to do its job. Before you install the plugs to try and start, put some large rags opposite the spark plug holes and crank the motor to try and eject as much of the atf out the holes. An oily fog will come out, which truthfully isn't that bad for your engine bay, but might hurt the paint, and hence the rags.

Install the plugs, then maybe a small squirt of starter fluid in the carb airhorn, and then crank it without any choke to see if it fires.

good luck!