1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

2 questions (one about tach, one about o2 sensor)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-12-02, 09:46 AM
  #1  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2 questions (one about tach, one about o2 sensor)

Question the first: Do I need a physical ground on the trailing coil in order for the tach to work? I have attached the wire from my trailing second gen coil to my first gen tach, but it will not seem to respond. The coil is firing fine, it's only the tach that won't work.

Question deux: When I lengthen the wire to my O2 sensor (because the header moves it further from the engine), is there a specific way to do this? Meaning, do I just crimp on copper wire or do I have to solder in the low voltage wire? Also, where can I get that low voltage wire like the stuff that comes on O2 sensors?

Thanks guys.
Old 08-12-02, 09:49 AM
  #2  
Old [Sch|F]ool

 
peejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Posts: 12,506
Received 416 Likes on 296 Posts
1: No

2: huh? low voltage wire?????
Old 08-12-02, 10:26 AM
  #3  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
1. What could my problem be with the tach then? I'm sure it's the correct wire. It only needs to come off the coil to the tach right? There's nothing else to do?

2. The wire on O2 sensors is that not-copper kind (I think it's steel, but could be wrong). It has the actual wire wrapped in another metal that serves as a shield to eliminate the wire grounding at all before the signal reaches the ECU. This wire, I was under the impression at least, is called low voltage wire because it is a very low voltage moving through it and therefore it needs to remain very constant.

How about I change the question: How exactly do I go about extending the wire from my O2 sensor?
Old 08-12-02, 10:58 AM
  #4  
Old [Sch|F]ool

 
peejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Posts: 12,506
Received 416 Likes on 296 Posts
The tach also needs to recieve power. Sure you've figured that out though What kind of tach are you using?

You an use any old wire for the 02 sensor.
Old 08-12-02, 11:04 AM
  #5  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm using the stock 84 tach. You're sure I've figured that out, huh? Well, looks like your wrong! Hehe, I'll go check that right now. Where does the power come in at? N/M, I'm sure it's in the wiring diagram. BRB
Old 08-12-02, 11:20 AM
  #6  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Okay, I just went and looked at it. I have no idea where the power comes in. The only possibility I saw (assuming that it is one of the wires in the circular plugs) is the wire labeled "GEN" in the wiring diagram. I don't know what this would do otherwise.

So the power doesn't come from the trailing coil huh? I was under the impression that it put out a varying voltage signal. I guess not though.
Old 08-12-02, 12:18 PM
  #7  
male stripper

iTrader: (1)
 
jeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 3,131
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
signal comes from the coil neg. power and ground still have to be hooked up for the tach to operate.
Old 08-12-02, 12:23 PM
  #8  
The Shadetree Project

iTrader: (40)
 
Hyper4mance2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: District of Columbia
Posts: 7,301
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
but there is only one wire that hooks up to the coil?? wtf my tach just stopped working when i put in my msd direct fire?? could i have switched the wires that hook up to the igniter?? which one is it the blue one or black one??
Old 08-12-02, 01:08 PM
  #9  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by jeremy
signal comes from the coil neg. power and ground still have to be hooked up for the tach to operate.
But where does the tach get power from? What wire is it that plugs in to the back of the gauges giving it power?
Old 08-12-02, 02:45 PM
  #10  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I cannot figure out this damn tach. I've tried everything I can think of, even hooking up power to wires that I don't think should be getting power. No luck. Can someone please shed a light on this, I'm at the end of my (short) rope?
Old 08-12-02, 04:04 PM
  #11  
FJ
Senior Member

 
FJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Redwood

But where does the tach get power from? What wire is it that plugs in to the back of the gauges giving it power?
For an '84, the tach gets it's 12v from the ig pin on the connector shown (it's the wire side of the connection). According to the diagram, it is the only 3 pin connector on the combination meter. The same pin goes to the voltmeter and idiot lights, so if they work, the tach has power. Unless there is a bad solder joint at the tach itself.

-John.

Last edited by FJ; 08-12-02 at 04:07 PM.
Old 08-12-02, 04:13 PM
  #12  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you so much, that's exactly what I needed to hear. I'm going to go try it right now. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Old 08-12-02, 04:25 PM
  #13  
Find Racing

Thread Starter
 
Redwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sweet!!!

It works. Good to know since I was apparently idling at about 2200 rpm!!! Anyway, that's the last major barrier in getting my project on the road. Thanks to everyone who responded to this, wouldn't have figured it out otherwise.

For the record, I had hooked that wire into my ignition switch, but had used a fried fuse when I wired it into my fusebox. Once I found out that it was definitely supposed to be that way though, I traced the whole thing and found the faulty fuse.

Good to know that I can uninstall/install my gauge cluster in under 4 minutes (which includes taking off the steering wheel and turn signals).

Phew, thanks again.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
07-01-23 04:40 PM
streetlegal?
New Member RX-7 Technical
13
03-17-22 02:46 PM
Skeese
Adaptronic Engine Mgmt - AUS
65
03-28-17 03:30 PM
Thor 18
Interior / Exterior / Audio
4
09-13-15 08:39 PM



Quick Reply: 2 questions (one about tach, one about o2 sensor)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:58 PM.