Ok theres a diffrence of taking to long time to make a kit..then to show proven results and test..

Why would some one spend $2-3k with you when we can probally get it done ourselves for the same price,to the way we want it..

The one problem most people here have is finding a manifold for it,after that ..its smooth sailing..

I got a guy locally who makes 12A turbo manifolds with the RB flange/ any turbo flange your gonna run for about $300.-$400. Its good qaulity and this guy has been welding over 25 yrs..

I lost contact with him..I just got to the race track and find him or some of my friends that still talk to him..

Most people here have the basic knowledge of how,they want there turbo set up ran.

Your "kit" how are you going to assure these people thier carbs/fuel system will be ok for this mod?

To me it sounds like a buy as is,you blow it your fucked ...kinda deal..

No proven results here...

 

Exactly.

 

Actually that's not a problem at all. Get a 13b turbo manifold from a 2nd gen. You just have to grind the bolt holes and exhaust paths inward some.

 

I know me personally would liek soemthing better than a stock TII turbo..

I would go with like a T60-T66 which will go back to finding a manifold for the 12a/T66 set up which will have to be custom made..

 

I still say cut the guy some slack. He's pre-announcing a product much in the same way that we see movie trailers months (or in some cases years) before the release. He said they're in the final stages of testing, so it's not even that bad.

As I said before, however, their website leaves much to be desired - but you still don't need to slam on them. Show a lilttle more love

 

True, but I would pay the money to have a complete kit. Most of the time building your own kit is finding parts for it. I'm currently trying to fab one for my SE and can only work on it on the weekends. I'm figuring it'll take me at least a couple of months from start to finish. If I had a kit, I can get done in a weekend. Time = money!!

 

i'm with you pratch...give the guy a break if he produces there's going to be a lot of happy first gen owners out there. the final product will tell all.

 

Ok, enough whining just because the kit isn't done yet. Our FBs were built 20+ years ago, and now that we're ten days from him releasing the product, everyone is willing to jump the gun and attack because he doesn't have every detail publicly available?

Honestly, that's how every manufacturer of a new custom product I've ever seen has done business. I've seen companies post something in a forum 6 months before a product was released, with the same amount of details. Of course, people always bitch because they can't have it immediately...

If the guy starts taking orders without offering any more information, THEN you start attacking.

How about somebody brings up some legitimate concerns, like why doesn't stage I include a boost controller? Or why is the turbo only being described as a "16G", when there are a lot of different configurations that use this compressor? And why do we need a new fuel pump and FPR, but nothing is listed about new jets?

 

Yeah, ok....

When they still don't have anything to show up front in the next YEAR, I'll be sitting here saying "I told you so".

Some people are too gullible it seems.

Put it this way, what has been "SHOWN AND/OR PROVEN" on their side?

Nothing. At all.

So why are you all so quick to believe 'em?

Oh, btw, I'm taking pre-orders for a magical pixie dust porting system that will give you 1000HP. My prototype car with it is running in the low 7s.

Anyone wanna make an order?

 

The problem with what you're saying is that they HAVEN'T asked for any orders. So in other words, they're saying they've developed a turbo kit. No more, no less. A lot of people post about their turbo setups without giving a list of equipment, money spent, exact power figures, etc. Noone is being gullible, some of us just have enough sense to wait and see.

 

If anybody is actually interested in a turbo kit, I would wait and see what is said before or on April 24th.

Let the product speak for itself.

 

 

I am sorry Flawless Motors if we seem to be rude right now. It is just that we are excited that someone has decided to make a product that has been desired for many years (turbo conversion). Don't let them push you around. I am glad you gave a "heads up" about your new kits because you get everyone interested. This could be a real proving ground for you. Best of luck!!!!! And for everyone here, lets show Flawless Motors some respect. Afterall, I don't see you making any turbo kit for sale now do I?

 

Ok, a couple of answers....the 16g turbo is what we are using and have become very famillar with due to the fact we deal alot with mitsubishi eclipses .. sure we could smack a t66 on it but not too many people would even come close to spooling it up(when was the last time you saw a company selling a kit for anything with a turbo that big??)...the jets are the main thing we are testing right now(trying to get a PERFECT idle)...also a boost controller with stage one would be a bad idea, due to the fact there is no intercooler...over 5 psi without as intercooler has bad news written all over it and we wouldnt want to be responsible for people blowing up there motor because we sent them a controller to do just that....thanks for most of your support...and if you can make your own kit, then go ahead..........jason

 

Robert is not running an intercooler on most of his cars, and I believe he told me he was running 15 lbs. without grenading the motor.

I don't know how old the motor is, but if you make a turbo kit for a used car there are a great many variables that you should ask people buying the kit before they buy it.

Just look at how many posts there are about stock engined cars not running or having trouble. Sell a turbo to them and if their motor takes a dump, guess who they are going to point the finger at?

 

You didn't really answer the question about the 16G. 16G only decribes about 1/3 of the turbo's performance. If you're familiar with the Mitsubishi cars, should we assume this is a TD05H-16G? I can get the 16G compressor in a lot of different housings, depending on application

As for the boost controller, the spring on the wastegate must be about a 5 pound spring, then?

 

Yea good point. Didn't think of that. I'm not sure why I'm even looking at this thread actually. I wouldn't waste my time turboing a 12a anyway. Whatever, if he delivers then thats good, if he doesn't then is sucks.

 

sorry to bring back a dead thread
but i wonder if anything ever became of these turbo kits...

 

probably not.... probably found out that the nikki carb is shitty for boost.... and that they have to charge more for a webber..... hehe...


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