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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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13B Twin turbo swap??

I have an 81 RX-7. I was curious if anyone has done the 13B twin turbo swap. If so how hard is it? If not is it even possible? Oh BTW if anyone wants or needs a B13 Turbo, I can get them for $750. Thank you for any and all information.
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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hmm.. either search or look up at the top of the posts all the info you could need and them some more.. look b4 ya post plz..
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 01:34 AM
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yeah, we'll let you slide since you're new. there are a lot of cosmo swaps going on right now and have been quite a few tII swaps. just look at the sticky and search.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 01:54 AM
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As mentioned above there are numerous threads on this subject. The two approaces are transplanting the Gen3 RX7 or the slightly easier Cosmo twin turbo engines.

A good approach is to read through all the posts of Mike-P-28 who describes in detail what it takes to fit a Cosmo engine, and the total time and cost involved.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 01:59 AM
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Sorry, add to that the requirements to transplant a 13b into a 12a model which entails several stuctural changes plus a high pressure fuel pump and line. Most people start with the 84/85 13b gsl-se due in part to better brakes and a lsd.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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Sorry, add to that the requirements to transplant a 13b into a 12a model which entails several stuctural changes plus a high pressure fuel pump and line. Most people start with the 84/85 13b gsl-se due in part to better brakes and a lsd.
I wished I started with a -SE

Would have been a lot better off
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Yea but Mike your getting the perfect sleeper man and only having to sacrafice an arm, leg and possibly some internal organs to pay for it.

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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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Yea but Mike your getting the perfect sleeper man and only having to sacrafice an arm, leg and possibly some internal organs to pay for it.

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Actually Ive did quite well, only used my credit card once ($210 from Racing Beat for the exhaust flanges, downpipe etc) everything else has been cash So im doing pretty good. Im afraid to add everything up...
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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Car addict rule #1:

NEVER EVER add up the receipts.

I have even taken care on my site not to keep a running total on the whole car, but just on what it would take to swap a TII engine and tranny into a GSL-SE. I don't even count things that should be gone through or updated, like the clutch, injector cleaning, etc.

I still have all the receipts back to when I bought the car. Inquiring minds really don't want to know.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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True so very true, I know that im way beyong 6k I had 6000 saved up, and its now gone


Take note people this IS NOT CHEAP!
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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By the way lets not forget about the others doing this too. Setzep and Directfreak, rx7passion with his 13bt...

I cant be the show stealer LOL
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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I thought that direct freak was doing the cosmo swap?

Oh well thats what I get for thinking.

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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by damon
I thought that direct freak was doing the cosmo swap?

Oh well thats what I get for thinking.

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Yeah he is, take note of the grammer, in particular the comma and come back and see if you see who is doing the 13bt (Damn what a smart *** I am LOL )
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Actually just for fun, I started adding up the receipts, (I have everything beside IC, Haltech, Injectors, Fuel pump) and I almost passed out looking at what i've paid. SO PLEASE DON'T BOTHER ADDING UP THE COST B/C IT'S TOO MUCH. but i think it's well worth it at the end.

Remember that it's always will be way more than what you think it will cost.

To do a good job and doing most of the work your self, you should be looking at around 7-10G
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:38 PM
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To do a good job and doing most of the work your self, you should be looking at around 7-10G
Oh no, dammit you mean its that much LOL LOL
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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hehe i dont want to know how much i have spent, but like mike i havnt put any of it on credit. all been cash from paychecks. now even toying with a upgraded to4 setup i cringe
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Do you think it would be cheaper to have started with a FD and substituted a FB body, I believe you can pick up good bodies for $500.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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If you start with an FD, why not just keep it as an FD?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 08:49 PM
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It kinda detracts from the unique and sleeper qualities.

I want an FD too, not instead of a turbo FB. It's a state of mind that is hard to explain. The FD and FC turbo guys think it's envy. I think it's making up for the way Mazda should have been making them all along.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by NOTA V6
It kinda detracts from the unique and sleeper qualities.

I want an FD too, not instead of a turbo FB. It's a state of mind that is hard to explain. The FD and FC turbo guys think it's envy. I think it's making up for the way Mazda should have been making them all along.
I couldn't have said it better.

I want a Turbo FB, a 20B FC Vert, and a late, late model FD.

I gotta have one of each in the long run.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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By the way, I HAVE added the receipts, an even broken the whole thing down to the dollar.

There are two correct answers.
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    Old Jul 26, 2002 | 10:00 AM
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    Originally posted by Directfreak
    By the way, I HAVE added the receipts, an even broken the whole thing down to the dollar.

    There are two correct answers.
      LOL!

      I told you!

      BTW, George Samuels has the RXX-7 (white FC 'vert with a 20B) for sale. To my knowledge it is the only completed 20B 'vert project in the world. And he ONLY wants something around $40K for it. Maybe he could be talked down to a more reasonable $30K. I hear there is some crazy Canadian trying his hand at the project now too...
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      Old Jul 26, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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      Originally posted by NOTA V6

      LOL!

      I told you!

      BTW, George Samuels has the RXX-7 (white FC 'vert with a 20B) for sale. To my knowledge it is the only completed 20B 'vert project in the world. And he ONLY wants something around $40K for it. Maybe he could be talked down to a more reasonable $30K. I hear there is some crazy Canadian trying his hand at the project now too...
      LOL Hey guys add another $300 to mine

      Just picked up some more goodies
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      Old Jul 26, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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      Baaaahhhhhhh....

      Someone give me a car, an engine, a prybar, a hammer, some duct tape, and my MIG. Then we'll see how much an engine swap costs
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      Old Jul 26, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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      Manntis- it would appear the aim of so many people on this forum is get a car which has a FB body and FD engine and mechaniicals.

      What I was suggesting was why not start with the FD and change the body, rather than as people have been doing is starting with a FB and changing the engine. We could start a whole new thread on how to do it!

      I don't want a FD, however the new Z350 is looking great and may be my next purchase when the convertible comes out. I think Mazda is going the wrong way with the RX-8, even the rotary does not save it.

      I will stick with the SA as my personality car.
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