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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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NM, question already answered, heh.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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bummer the selling price for these are lower then the old american classics when our car is so much better
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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I saw an 85 GSL-SE with 25k miles sell for 12 grand on eBay. It was mint with all the papers. Not many cars from that year have that kind of value, as well as demand for original condition.
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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2. It has recirculating ball steering
Fixed.
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Old Sep 30, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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In Pennsylvania you can register your car as a classic at 20 years and an antique at 25. I bought mine new in 84, and even though I bought a new Porsche Cayman S in 2008 I kept the RX-7. I still smile when I drive it and when its clean it still turns heads. At a Vintage Grand Prix car cruise last year someone stopped me as I was leaving so they could photograph the car. It's clean lines, great balance and excellent ergonomics propel the design through the ages. Whether it will be appreciated in the way that older American muscle cars are is difficult to say as its a different, more horsepower oriented crowd to whom those appeal.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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so lets say to them lets race through the curves....those cars may be fast but dont rx7s have the quicker acceleraton up to like 200 feet then the muscle cars would take us...but in the curves and turns rx7 wins everytime....why do we see better preformance out of rx7s then the american muscle cars yet were not appreicated like the american muscle cars.....the only thing the muscle cars got is horsepower

on a side note
every time i see those old muscle cars i see an equally old guy driving it...is that just me or other people see that too
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by snowbreaker
so lets say to them lets race through the curves....those cars may be fast but dont rx7s have the quicker acceleraton up to like 200 feet then the muscle cars would take us...but in the curves and turns rx7 wins everytime....why do we see better preformance out of rx7s then the american muscle cars yet were not appreicated like the american muscle cars.....the only thing the muscle cars got is horsepower

on a side note
every time i see those old muscle cars i see an equally old guy driving it...is that just me or other people see that too
Race thru the curves win. Initial jump from the light lose, everytime. The rotary just
doesn't have the torque the v8s have. Rx7 won big time in endurance and road racing
because of their balance and rock solid engines. You didn't see them winning big
at the stop lights or drags. Some of thats changed with the onset of turbos but its
still basically true.

You see old guys driving muscle cars because thats what they wanted or had
when they were younger and its what they always liked.

I've had my rx7 since January 1983. It was my first car out of school and it was a
used 3 year old SA. I chose the SA over the brand new GSL-SE because I wanted
the best car for autocross I could find. Now I'm one of those old guys you mentioned
See how it works
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by snowbreaker
so lets say to them lets race through the curves....those cars may be fast but dont rx7s have the quicker acceleraton up to like 200 feet then the muscle cars would take us...but in the curves and turns rx7 wins everytime....why do we see better preformance out of rx7s then the american muscle cars yet were not appreicated like the american muscle cars.....the only thing the muscle cars got is horsepower
thats why i put a big turbo on mine.

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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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boriquaguerrero your in the army right? i see from your location your in colorado is that fort carson? my older brother just got transferred from south korea over to fort carson thats why im wondering, oh and i also love your 79 with a turbo on it, something to look forward to for me

also in a race when do you ever just go in a straight line? practically never unless your drag racing or from a stop light

haha yep its all old guys....
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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Never underestimate the American Muscle cars.....some of them, set up correctly, will handle with an RX-7 and blow their doors off....I have had several, and a built muscle car is nothing to shrug your shoulders at in a straight line or corners... RX-7's are fun, but they are not built to be in the same class with the old american iron from the 60's. Why do you see older folks in true muscle cars? Simple, most younger folks cant afford them. They are not cheap to own/build/operate/maintain....an RX-7 is affordable(fortunately)....just have fun with what ya have, and try not to make it into something it isnt...




Originally Posted by snowbreaker
so lets say to them lets race through the curves....those cars may be fast but dont rx7s have the quicker acceleraton up to like 200 feet then the muscle cars would take us...but in the curves and turns rx7 wins everytime....why do we see better preformance out of rx7s then the american muscle cars yet were not appreicated like the american muscle cars.....the only thing the muscle cars got is horsepower

on a side note
every time i see those old muscle cars i see an equally old guy driving it...is that just me or other people see that too
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Alright so tonight I was leaving my town and ran into a red light. Well a guy in a '67 Camaro pulled up next to me. This is what happened.
Me: *wave*
Guy: *wave back*
Me: "What year?"
Guy: "'67"
Me: "how much horse power"
Guy: "370"
Guy: "Yours a '79?"
Me: "Yeah how did you know"
Guy: "I used to work on them, I love the first gens"
Me: "Yeah I love it too...."
Then the light turned green and we both went (no drag race or burn outs).
Point is when someone pulls up to you at a red light and knows what your car is (I have no badges on my car), it's a classic.
Also the dude was older. :P
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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yes im in fort carson im in 3rd Brigade Combat Team
Originally Posted by snowbreaker
boriquaguerrero your in the army right? i see from your location your in colorado is that fort carson? my older brother just got transferred from south korea over to fort carson thats why im wondering, oh and i also love your 79 with a turbo on it, something to look forward to for me

also in a race when do you ever just go in a straight line? practically never unless your drag racing or from a stop light

haha yep its all old guys....
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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From Wikipedia:

"The Classic Car Club of America maintains that a car must be between 30 and 49 years old to be a classic..."

I think it used to be 25 years. Anyway, by their definition, it is a classic car.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 09:57 AM
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And if everyone keeps listing their 7's on eBay at $38,000 hey---- there's an idea. We can make this work ha

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Old May 7, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CyByrd
And if everyone keeps listing their 7's on eBay at $38,000 hey---- there's an idea. We can make this work ha

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yeah actually that pretty much will work. in the 90's you could buy any muscle car you wanted for 2k, unless it had a hemi.

i passed on a 67 mustang GT with a 390 in it, for $1500. a 70 charger (i think), for $1000 (it was in a tow yard), etc etc.

when i actually DID buy a 68 mustang, the 86 Rx7 literally ran circles around it....
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Old May 8, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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anyone read the latest hagerty classic cars publication? there's an article about 3 cheap, fun japanese sports cars, one being the first gen RX7, the other two being the 240z and miata. i just wish the price of the RX7's would match up to the 240z's.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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Ya it's weird. Considering its rich history, I have no idea why the FB doesn't hold a much higher value. IMO, It's not even as sought after/desired, or even known, by as many enthusiasts as it should be. In the sense that with its racing heritage alone it is simply entitled to more respect.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE
Ya it's weird. Considering its rich history, I have no idea why the FB doesn't hold a much higher value. IMO, It's not even as sought after/desired, or even known, by as many enthusiasts as it should be. In the sense that with its racing heritage alone it is simply entitled to more respect.
For 5 or 6 years they made ~40,000 a year. Many came here to the states.
So thats about 240,000 vehicles out there. Not very rare or scarce. Now
some specific years or models are more valuable than others. Like SAs
and GSL-SEs or special editions in various years. All that said, its very similar
to the MGB of the 60/70s. They still don't have much value yet.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 11:43 AM
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If old J-tin ever becomes a fad in the US collector car hobby, the Z cars and Rx-7s will be at the forefront of the charge. Currently only the GT 2000 and Cosmo are looked at as truly collectable.

Our cars will never achieve that same status due to their production quantities, but surviving cars will increase in value and be appreciated for all the same reasons they were first popular for. Especially good condition stock examples.

All our race pedigree and peroid magazine coverage help solidify it all. It's just going to take longer for the rest of the world to realize what we already know.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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OP - I would suggest going back (on the forum here) and reading some of the magazine articles from that time period. Especially the Motor trend or Road and Track to get the objective opinions of professionals who had driven lots of the other sports cars of the day.
I would say that most if not all had a great write up on what made the cars special and stood out from their competitors (at the time). Much has carried forward till today even.
So, as long as you have the library here available to you, you can really get an education by reading the old articles.
Your teacher would probably appreciate the width and depth of your research (to be objective) and using these source documents in your paper.
Good luck on your project.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gtuturbo2
yes im in fort carson im in 3rd Brigade Combat Team
I hated Carson when we did some training there hot and dusty. recall with special disdain Cottonwood Junction and Red Devil areas. Almost drove off the side of a mountain once in blackout drive during a driving rainstorm. I came down the next morning and saw my 1/4t tracks from the night before and how close I actually came to edge of the cliff. Good thing I didn't know how close I really was!
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Originally Posted by wahootee
I hated Carson when we did some training there hot and dusty. recall with special disdain Cottonwood Junction and Red Devil areas. Almost drove off the side of a mountain once in blackout drive during a driving rainstorm. I came down the next morning and saw my 1/4t tracks from the night before and how close I actually came to edge of the cliff. Good thing I didn't know how close I really was!
yeah that terrain is ruff I'm leaving next month to Korea

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