a lesson on not buying a car from a kid
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a lesson on not buying a car from a kid
Are you considering buying a first gen RX-7? Already found one that looks nice and is up for a good deal? Get to know the owner before you buy.
In the meantime here is my story about the new member of my garage
WARNING: includes me runting :P
This winter i bought an 84 rx-7 with following information being given to me :
apex seal is done for, car doesn't start.
The 15" rims need tires.
problem with front breaks.
and need a paint job.
the good
streight body
the floor at the front was redone.
custome 15x7 with 5" lip
new starter
new battery
4 original 13" rims
clutch cyleneder - 1 year old
new 1 year old clutch
diff seal 1 year old
repainted interor.
i looked the car over in winter while it was mostly covered in snow, and liked how it looked, I bought it and another 83 donner with a blown clutch for 800$ total.
Then the work begun. During the engine swap i found out the the transmission was leaking oil, the oil seal was finished. The hand break was none existing, the cable was broken at the joint, and that the front calipers where done for.
I fixed all the issues with replacing the parts, repainted the engine bay and swaped the engine.
I then found out that the exhaust system was leaking at every joint, and the engine would not idle at all. The engine worked fine before the swap.
I replaced the exhaust system as it would be imposable to fix the old one, and after some work we got the engine to idle. The brake master cylender was blown and had to be replaced. While we where at it we had to replace the clutch cylender as well, as the seals where finished as well.
At this point the car was idling but behaving strange. Upon inspecting the start timing we found out that one of the ignition coils was not working, and about 1/3 of the ignition cables where fried. We where also facing a problem of a Dowel pin oil leak which we got fixed without having to tear the engine apart.
Finely the car could run and hold it's idle at 500, Adjusted to 750 later on. It was time for body work.
The floors which where redone where so poorly done, that i had to redo the job completely. I took my gas cap to a paint shop and got some paint to match the color, and after some days of prep work, i started painting the rear to realize the colors did not match. :/
I finished painting, and went to drive the car, to notice that the clutch which was said to be 1 year old to be completely finished. I opened the old engine to look at the issues, to find all apex seals in perfect condition, 1 broken side seal, and both rotor housings to be finished.
I'm now driving the car is it is waiting to get some extra $$$ to get a new clutch, finish the interior and get the car sprayed.
so here the information again that i got from the 19year old kid:
apex seal is done for. The guys was sure of this, even claimed he found the apex seal that flew out of the engine in the exhaust. (false)
The 15" rims need tires.
problem with front breaks. (problem with entire break system from brake sylender to hand break)
and need a paint job.
the good
streight body (more or less true, the hood is not properly placed, neither are the fenders. Easy fix)
the floor at the front was redone. ( true, but so poorly that it had to be redone again)
new starter (started was referbished)
new battery (battery was new but dead)
4 original 13" rims (true, with nice tires)
clutch cylender - 1 year old (maybe, but it was done for)
new 1 year old clutch (maybe, but was done for as well)
diff seal 1 year old (haven't checked)
repainted interor. (true)
Moral of the story, don't buy cars from kids :P As i have no idea how the car was drivable at all with all the things wrong with it, and he claimed he drove it just till the motor died. Yeah i can see why it died :P
Old pictures of the car can be seen here: https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-general-discussion-207/what-you-think-84-fb-816827/
So thats my story, hope you enjoyed the read.
In the meantime here is my story about the new member of my garage
WARNING: includes me runting :P
This winter i bought an 84 rx-7 with following information being given to me :
apex seal is done for, car doesn't start.
The 15" rims need tires.
problem with front breaks.
and need a paint job.
the good
streight body
the floor at the front was redone.
custome 15x7 with 5" lip
new starter
new battery
4 original 13" rims
clutch cyleneder - 1 year old
new 1 year old clutch
diff seal 1 year old
repainted interor.
i looked the car over in winter while it was mostly covered in snow, and liked how it looked, I bought it and another 83 donner with a blown clutch for 800$ total.
Then the work begun. During the engine swap i found out the the transmission was leaking oil, the oil seal was finished. The hand break was none existing, the cable was broken at the joint, and that the front calipers where done for.
I fixed all the issues with replacing the parts, repainted the engine bay and swaped the engine.
I then found out that the exhaust system was leaking at every joint, and the engine would not idle at all. The engine worked fine before the swap.
I replaced the exhaust system as it would be imposable to fix the old one, and after some work we got the engine to idle. The brake master cylender was blown and had to be replaced. While we where at it we had to replace the clutch cylender as well, as the seals where finished as well.
At this point the car was idling but behaving strange. Upon inspecting the start timing we found out that one of the ignition coils was not working, and about 1/3 of the ignition cables where fried. We where also facing a problem of a Dowel pin oil leak which we got fixed without having to tear the engine apart.
Finely the car could run and hold it's idle at 500, Adjusted to 750 later on. It was time for body work.
The floors which where redone where so poorly done, that i had to redo the job completely. I took my gas cap to a paint shop and got some paint to match the color, and after some days of prep work, i started painting the rear to realize the colors did not match. :/
I finished painting, and went to drive the car, to notice that the clutch which was said to be 1 year old to be completely finished. I opened the old engine to look at the issues, to find all apex seals in perfect condition, 1 broken side seal, and both rotor housings to be finished.
I'm now driving the car is it is waiting to get some extra $$$ to get a new clutch, finish the interior and get the car sprayed.
so here the information again that i got from the 19year old kid:
apex seal is done for. The guys was sure of this, even claimed he found the apex seal that flew out of the engine in the exhaust. (false)
The 15" rims need tires.
problem with front breaks. (problem with entire break system from brake sylender to hand break)
and need a paint job.
the good
streight body (more or less true, the hood is not properly placed, neither are the fenders. Easy fix)
the floor at the front was redone. ( true, but so poorly that it had to be redone again)
new starter (started was referbished)
new battery (battery was new but dead)
4 original 13" rims (true, with nice tires)
clutch cylender - 1 year old (maybe, but it was done for)
new 1 year old clutch (maybe, but was done for as well)
diff seal 1 year old (haven't checked)
repainted interor. (true)
Moral of the story, don't buy cars from kids :P As i have no idea how the car was drivable at all with all the things wrong with it, and he claimed he drove it just till the motor died. Yeah i can see why it died :P
Old pictures of the car can be seen here: https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-general-discussion-207/what-you-think-84-fb-816827/
So thats my story, hope you enjoyed the read.
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Hey man im about to turn twenty in a month. Ive sold many cars and car parts without any big problems so far. I had six 7's and i kept one to DD. Sorry you got yourself into a bigger project than you expected but thats the gamble you take. When you buy a cheap car its most likely going to be a project car(+$). And for complaining about buying a car from a kid...you should use spell check.
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For $800.00 you got TWO cars and your b&%^ing. I think you need to grow up. Its always buyer beware and when you get two vehicles for 800 bucks doubly so. Should have waited for spring to check it out more.
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$800 is a good deal for two cars....I would pay $800 for a box of warm dogshit if it had a good rotary engine in it.....
Enjoy your cars and BTW.....read this..
Enjoy your cars and BTW.....read this..
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lol, i think some of you missed the point of the thread. Yes i came across as having things against 19 year olds, but that not what i meant at all, just that you should get to know the buyer before you purchase a car. In this case the owner did not take care of the car, reason why the engine blew, nor was he planing to do it. Unfortunately since he was taking about doing a v8 swap i trusted that he knew what he was doing and that he would have looked after it. I bought an 1990 GTU from a young fellow as well, and so far that car brought me no problems, and was an even easier project that i anticipated. Was looking into doing an engine swap but got it working with out doing anything just changing battery .
Nor am i complaining about the car i got, yes it was a bigger project then expected but i don't regret it and would do it again anytime The car was 3h away from me, and i could not inspect it as much as i wanted in -30 weather and with close to 1 meter of snow around it I was prepared for even worth when i bought it.
Also sorry about my english, it's not my first language and this forum doesn't have a spellcheck so i can't see my errors right away. The ones i catch after a proofreading, i correct.
Anyways the point of this thread was just to show what i got into when i bought my 3rd rx-7 and how you should not trust everything the seller tells you (i know we all know that, but we tend to forget sometimes)
edit: I only bought 1 car from him, for $500, after i purchased it i got a call from a friend who's friend was selling an rx-7 1minute away from me for $300. So i bought it as a parts car The $300 had a working engine, and the only problem was some rust spots and a blown clutch(was in pieces when i took it off)
Nor am i complaining about the car i got, yes it was a bigger project then expected but i don't regret it and would do it again anytime The car was 3h away from me, and i could not inspect it as much as i wanted in -30 weather and with close to 1 meter of snow around it I was prepared for even worth when i bought it.
Also sorry about my english, it's not my first language and this forum doesn't have a spellcheck so i can't see my errors right away. The ones i catch after a proofreading, i correct.
Anyways the point of this thread was just to show what i got into when i bought my 3rd rx-7 and how you should not trust everything the seller tells you (i know we all know that, but we tend to forget sometimes)
edit: I only bought 1 car from him, for $500, after i purchased it i got a call from a friend who's friend was selling an rx-7 1minute away from me for $300. So i bought it as a parts car The $300 had a working engine, and the only problem was some rust spots and a blown clutch(was in pieces when i took it off)
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Best 7 I bought yet I got from a kid who needed the money to go to China before starting college in the fall. Fantastic deal at $1,200, but I'd expect some serious things wrong for anything less than that (he originally wanted $2,400 but got stuck because of the trip, at least I had some cash for him).
Here's the Silver One, my next daily driver if the White One ever dies:
Kids are cool!
Here's the Silver One, my next daily driver if the White One ever dies:
Kids are cool!
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never buy a car from a kid? what about a kid who has worked on cars all his life, rebuilt engines, and doesnt bullshit? there are adults who a just as/ if not more shitty than us "kids"
you got a good deal i think. you could part it out and make your money back....if not more.
you got a good deal i think. you could part it out and make your money back....if not more.
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I bought a car from a 35 year old guy for my first car. It was the worst car I've ever owned and he couldn't tell me enough great things about it. I've bought 2 cars from friends my age and they were both great.
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lol, i think some of you missed the point of the thread. Yes i came across as having things against 19 year olds, but that not what i meant at all, just that you should get to know the buyer before you purchase a car. In this case the owner did not take care of the car, reason why the engine blew, nor was he planing to do it. Unfortunately since he was taking about doing a v8 swap i trusted that he knew what he was doing and that he would have looked after it. I bought an 1990 GTU from a young fellow as well, and so far that car brought me no problems, and was an even easier project that i anticipated. Was looking into doing an engine swap but got it working with out doing anything just changing battery .
Nor am i complaining about the car i got, yes it was a bigger project then expected but i don't regret it and would do it again anytime The car was 3h away from me, and i could not inspect it as much as i wanted in -30 weather and with close to 1 meter of snow around it I was prepared for even worth when i bought it.
Also sorry about my english, it's not my first language and this forum doesn't have a spellcheck so i can't see my errors right away. The ones i catch after a proofreading, i correct.
Anyways the point of this thread was just to show what i got into when i bought my 3rd rx-7 and how you should not trust everything the seller tells you (i know we all know that, but we tend to forget sometimes)
edit: I only bought 1 car from him, for $500, after i purchased it i got a call from a friend who's friend was selling an rx-7 1minute away from me for $300. So i bought it as a parts car The $300 had a working engine, and the only problem was some rust spots and a blown clutch(was in pieces when i took it off)
Nor am i complaining about the car i got, yes it was a bigger project then expected but i don't regret it and would do it again anytime The car was 3h away from me, and i could not inspect it as much as i wanted in -30 weather and with close to 1 meter of snow around it I was prepared for even worth when i bought it.
Also sorry about my english, it's not my first language and this forum doesn't have a spellcheck so i can't see my errors right away. The ones i catch after a proofreading, i correct.
Anyways the point of this thread was just to show what i got into when i bought my 3rd rx-7 and how you should not trust everything the seller tells you (i know we all know that, but we tend to forget sometimes)
edit: I only bought 1 car from him, for $500, after i purchased it i got a call from a friend who's friend was selling an rx-7 1minute away from me for $300. So i bought it as a parts car The $300 had a working engine, and the only problem was some rust spots and a blown clutch(was in pieces when i took it off)
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You seem like the kind of person that looks at a cheap car or truck that has rust and starts kicking it and poking at the rust to see how much is there. A guy was about to kick my truck I was selling for $300 had LOTS of body rust and I said you kick my truck I kick yours and I had boots on and my Dad had someone poking it one day and my Dad said do I poke your wife if not stop poking the truck. But because some one is 19 and selling a car does not mean every 19 year old kids cars are crap. I sold 2 or 3 cars and the new owners never came back with problems or called.
When I got my RX-7 for $200 and non running I was thinking a great toy for me to play with and I did not know if the motor was bad who knows it could of needed new motor, trany and rear end and it had rust holes where all the rust is. The body was great but for some rust. All the car needed to get running was a carb and starter and the motor has low km because of a newer motor and I talked to the guy who swaped it and I was lucky there and the guy I got it off of was about 23 and did not know what it needed.
But never think because of the owner of the price if you want a car that needs work but you like doing it. Get a cheap car if you want a car that does not need much work pay more money. When buying a car look it over and not stand there and look at it I mean get on the ground and look if you need to and allso if they did not do a hack job so you know the problem right away if you want to fix it. Like I got a free car the old owner cut every wire under the hood and would of took years to replace the wires but it was free so why do I care I made $80 for scrap.
When I got my RX-7 for $200 and non running I was thinking a great toy for me to play with and I did not know if the motor was bad who knows it could of needed new motor, trany and rear end and it had rust holes where all the rust is. The body was great but for some rust. All the car needed to get running was a carb and starter and the motor has low km because of a newer motor and I talked to the guy who swaped it and I was lucky there and the guy I got it off of was about 23 and did not know what it needed.
But never think because of the owner of the price if you want a car that needs work but you like doing it. Get a cheap car if you want a car that does not need much work pay more money. When buying a car look it over and not stand there and look at it I mean get on the ground and look if you need to and allso if they did not do a hack job so you know the problem right away if you want to fix it. Like I got a free car the old owner cut every wire under the hood and would of took years to replace the wires but it was free so why do I care I made $80 for scrap.
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its not just rx7's that you need to use commen sense with, this applys to all financial desicion in life... look, and shop around before you buy. read the fine print. in this case the fine print was an uneducated owner, who by no fault of his own, didnt know much about these cars.
its the buyer's responsibility, not always the owners.
besides, if they are clueless about stuff, i can usually lowball the crap out of them and get a great deal! like you did.
/thread.
its the buyer's responsibility, not always the owners.
besides, if they are clueless about stuff, i can usually lowball the crap out of them and get a great deal! like you did.
/thread.
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Yup. I'd buy a car from a younger guy myself without hesitation, but only if I had a good look at it first. Same rule applies for sellers of any age. You bought a non-running car which meant you couldn't do a test drive to check the operation of the brakes, clutch, electrics, etc. When you do that, you have to assume there will be tons of work needed to get the car back on the road. By the way, what prevented you from inspecting the replacement work on the floorboards before you bought?
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doesn't matter if it's a kid, middle aged, or old man, if that person chooses not to tell the whole story. or if he just doesn't know the whole story. u can't decide u'll never buy from another teen just for this one bad experience. it's up to u to thoroughly check over the car before buying it and not rely solely on the sellers word.
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Jesus CHRIST, people! Would you please use a ******* PERIOD once in a while?
This thread gave me a headache reading it, not only because of the whiney subject matter, but the grammer is unbelievable. Save that texting **** 4 UR FONZ!
This thread gave me a headache reading it, not only because of the whiney subject matter, but the grammer is unbelievable. Save that texting **** 4 UR FONZ!
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