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The front barke hardware kit for my '85 GS came with 2 ant-rattle springs, and I can't figure out how they go on. Can someone explain it to me, or better yet post a picture?

Thanks,
Rich

ddewhurst

I have CRS. (can't remember ****) The little approx 1/8 inch long bent end fits into a hole in the brake pad (don't remember piston side pad or other side pad. Always need to look at the existing assembly. I think it might be the piston side pad & that helps push the pad & piston back home some.) backing steel plate. The other part of the anti rattle spring rests against the inside of the caliper. Look through the horizontal slot in the caliper to see if the anti rattle spring is assembled ok after you move the caliper fully into place using the second screw. It's kind of a bitch to assemble. Ya have the pads with the tin plates behind the pads al in place with only the top screw in place so that you can pivot the caliper partially out of the way so that you can assemble the anti rattle spring.

Don't have a camera & the $55.00 mazda workshop manual photographs suck.

David

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Yea, I can't make it out in the PDF version of the factory manual. I know there weren't any there when I took them apart, so I assume it isn't really necessary to install them, but would like to if I can figure it out. I've attached a couple of pictures of the caliper without the anti-rattle spring...can you mark them up at all to show me what you're talking about?

And, P.S. I can relate to that CRS disease
Thanks,
Rich

H4Inf

Here are some photos of my brakes and anti-rattle springs:

Front:


Rear:


Perhaps they are completely different, but perhaps something makes sense. I can't see where that thing you took a photo of above would fit.

riza

the 1/8 inch part goes into the pad side. Make sure the pad with the hole in it is pad side.

Also does anyone know if you need the tin backing. My raybestos didn't come with them, but my old pads had them. I didn't bother putting them on the new ones.

riza

also which model FB u got. Some had different types of brake assemblies

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I have an '85 GS. I'm not sure what this means: "Make sure the pad with the hole in it is pad side." All my pads look identical.

GavinJuice

That "tin" peice you are describing is a backing plate. The purpose of that little guy is to help absorb vibration when you brake, thus preventing the squeak everyone constitutes with "bad" brakes. So if you have it put it on, not everyone has them in their packages. Some companies chamfer the edges to help cut the vibration. Either way works, it's just a matter of preference.

IanS

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Dont need them. I didnt put mine on when I changed my pads on the 7 or the protege.

ddewhurst

Rich, your steel part of the pad has no holes for the anti rattle spring to fit into that I can see on the picture. When I look at your picture that shows the outside view of both pads & the rotor each steel part of each pad should have a hole in the outside diameter that the 1/8 bent part of the anti rattle piece would fit into. I use Hawk blue & they have the hole for the anti rattle piece. IMHJ the anti rattle spring keeps the pad somwhat away from the rotating rotor. Less pad wear.

I always presumed that those little brass clips that fit on the caliper bracket that the other guy showed a picture of are wear pieces. The thin sheeet metal plates between the steel of the pad & the caliper (that you have in place) are for heat reduction to the caliper parts.

Have Fun ; )
David

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Hey, I think I figured this out. I looked at the pads again and two of them do have holes in the outer end of the steel part of the pad. I put this pad to the piston side, put the bent end of the anti-rattle spring in the hole, and tucked the rest of the spring up into the caliper as I lowered it into place.

Thanks for all the input!
Rich

riza

there you go..that's right. Over time you'll become a pro at brakes. I became beeter within a couple days because I kept having to redo something. I now can change pads blindfolded.

Also did you grease the back side of the pads. I heard you don't need to..but I think it reduces the chance of vibration squeal.

riza

there you go..that's right. Over time you'll become a pro at brakes. I became beeter within a couple days because I kept having to redo something. I now can change pads blindfolded.

Also did you grease the back side of the pads. I heard you don't need to..but I think it reduces the chance of vibration squeal even further.

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Thanks Riza - I've done plenty of brakes in the past but hadn't done these before. I really like the setup...makes removing the pads real easy if all you're doing is changing them. Yes, I greased the backs of the pads with some synthetic caliper grease. I think I'm good to go as soon as I decide if I should use synthetic fluid or not.

Rich

Bob Holton

To all of you for the help and specially for the pictures. these are the darndest brakes to re pad. Someone had too much time when designing them,or were feeling sadistic that day. Bob No I havent jumped y et.

Glazedham42

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This thread is ancient but I just wanted to give a big thanks to Rich for following up on this, and not removing the pictures. I was having the exact same problem last night, and stumbled across this today. Now I'll have no problems finishing up the change of my front pads.



Much obliged Rich,
Jamie

P.S. - Jon you should archive this thread...

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Glad it helped, Jamie!

Rich