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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:56 AM
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Wankel Challenge

Hey I was just talking to my cousin and he owns a ae86 and he is attending a 4AG Challenge at Streets of Willow then later to ButtonWillow. I was wondering if any of you guys would even be interested to see if we could some how start up a 13B Challenge or just a event where a lot of Rx7's or 13B powered cars can go and track together and have some sort of prize or bragging rights? I don't know just throwing it out it's pretty late and I am bored. Just thought it would be cool to have a 13B Challenge and have it through out the year all over California not just one track.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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I would be interested for sure
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Should be labeled "RX Challenge," "Wankel Challenge," or "Rotary Challenge." There are a mix of 12A, 13B, 20B engines out there.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Yeah, you racist bastard

I would be in as well.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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sounds interesting. i'd attend it anyway if i don't race.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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sound fun
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Yeah.. it could even turn the size of sevenstock someday hah. I'm down.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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im in.

im down to do something like that,, would be fun



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sounds interesting. i'd attend it anyway if i don't race.
stop being a ***** and track lulz
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Close thing to it is MazFest.

Regardless, there has been conversations in the past about moving 7Stock to a track location so something like this could be made a side event. Maybe some day.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by finishline
sounds interesting. i'd attend it anyway if i don't race.
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Close thing to it is MazFest.

Regardless, there has been conversations in the past about moving 7Stock to a track location so something like this could be made a side event. Maybe some day.
true true, it would be awesome if they do move Sevenstock to the track.. then we could see the legendary rotaries driving on the track
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by andresj
Hey I was just talking to my cousin and he owns a ae86 and he is attending a 4AG Challenge at Streets of Willow then later to ButtonWillow. I was wondering if any of you guys would even be interested to see if we could some how start up a 13B Challenge or just a event where a lot of Rx7's or 13B powered cars can go and track together and have some sort of prize or bragging rights? I don't know just throwing it out it's pretty late and I am bored. Just thought it would be cool to have a 13B Challenge and have it through out the year all over California not just one track.
I'd go to watch,.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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someone should step up and organize one. I know Glenn has some experience with hosting track events.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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ill talk to some of the ppl who are in charge of seven stock and see what they think.


or if any one is down, to set up some thing up like fris said, im down to help out.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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If there is more interest I could try my best talking to some people and see what we can do. I just thought it would be cool if we had something similar like the s2000 challenge or the 4AG Challenge. Just another reason to build the hell out of our cars =]
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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haha^ good idea, if we get something going, it would be a great way to debut my FD when its done
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Just talked to Dave from speed ventures and they are trying to develop a number of series and they had Rx7's in mind. So hopefully some of you guys start posting on what you guys have in mind for this series or challenge.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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definitely something i would like to do.

I think it would be nice if there were some different classes.

Motor type makes the most sense to me. You don't want a crazy 400hp fd driving in the same race as a n/a 12a fb... unless it was like le mans where all the classes drove the same race. Maybe by aspiration or hp?

Either way, it would be a great time. Someone should really keep on this. Im sure alot of people would be interested.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Yes of course different classes! But how could we regulate this? Different classes by porting and turbo or na? How would they know if you had a street port or a race port? Here is the point system for S2000 Challenge maybe we could take some of their ideas

Points System

Participants can choose their top 8 out of the 11 events during the year to contribute to their total score. The points system will be adapted from the Formula 1 Series:

1st: 10
2nd: 8
3rd: 6
4th: 5
5th: 4
6th: 3
7th: 2
8th: 1

Classification System

After receiving feedback from the S2KI community from previously posted threads, the Speedventures advisory committee did some additional analysis, and finally agreed upon a points system that most accurately reflects current track attendance and places participants in apples-to-apples classifications. biggrin.gif

Street Class
0 to <=5 points

Modified Class
5> to <=11 points

Unlimited Class
11> points

AERO
0.25 = air dam bumper, any add-on lip (including OEM), canards, wind deflector
0.50 = splitter
0.25 = diffuser
1.25 = level 1 wing (CR, APR200 low mount, Mugen)
2.25 = level 2 wing (Voltex, J's, APR300, APR200 high mount, C-West)

TIRE/WHEEL
0.75 = level 1 street tires (RT615, RS2, MX, CSC3, PS2)
1.50 = level 2 street tires (Z1, AD07, RE01R, R1R, 595RSR, NT05, RE070)
3.50 = R-comp (RA1, R888, NT01, A048, PSC)
1.00 = 235~265 front tires
0.5 = 9" wheel or wider and/or widening front/rear track with wheels or spacers lower than OEM offsets (front +55, rear +65, not counting camber effect)

POWER
0.25 = non-oem intake system or any mods to OEM intake (including filter, snorkel, or piping)
0.25 = non-oem header
0.25 = test pipe
0.25 = cat-back exhaust
0.75 = ECU
1.50 = engine internal mods
3.00 = FI

SUSPENSION
1.00 = non-coilover suspension including CR suspension
2.50 = coilover suspension

DRIVETRAIN
0.50 = clutch type LSD
0.75 = final drive

WEIGHT REDUCTION
0.25 = softtop removal (but you must run a hardtop). Note: Penalty for soft-top removal waived if you have a 4pt roll-bar, 5-6pt harness, and an approved race seat. Interior removal on installation of safety equipment are not penalized.
0.25 = passenger seat removal

OTHER

-For Stock & Modified class, weight reduction limited to battery, spare tire, tools, light weight body panels, bucket seats, passenger seat removal & softtop removal
-C91, A6, V710, non-DOT, and all un-named <100 treadwear tires will be bumped into Unlimited Class
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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can i run without a driver's seat and not get a penalty?
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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looks like ill be unlimited...
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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I'm street but my car doesn't like to grip.. I might just spec..
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Sounds cool you guys. Just make sure you guys get your friends in here to show their interest and stuff. Hopefully this could actually happen
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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if you need help setting up something let me know im in.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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definitely something i would like to do.

I think it would be nice if there were some different classes.

Motor type makes the most sense to me. You don't want a crazy 400hp fd driving in the same race as a n/a 12a fb... unless it was like le mans where all the classes drove the same race. Maybe by aspiration or hp?

Either way, it would be a great time. Someone should really keep on this. Im sure alot of people would be interested.
I was trying to think how we would do this. Honor system on about how much power you have? but it's not just power that makes you fast around the course! suspension is huge and so is aero. Or you're automatically Modified if you have some kind of porting? Having 12a, 13b, and 20b is going to make it kind of hard. Are we going to get enough interest to just have seperate classes? I need more opinions please. I am currently trying to organize this but I need some more input from you guys! Looks like SpeedVentures is interested so we need to show some interest and I will talk to see if we could get some sort of support from shops or company's.
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