looking for the top of the line rebuilt longblock with comfortable capabilities of 500+ hp. Looking for rebuild from 4000 and below. Hit me back if you have some suggestions on shops. Thanks

 

If you can find one who can build an "all motor rotary with 500+hp," please let me know.

 

That can be done Wacky. It's called a peri port 4 rotor.

And where in Cali are you weston?

 

People can build 4 rotors in the States? Not that i'd get one, but who does this and how much does it cost?

 

PM wackyracer and DJDINO for smog. They'll hook you up sick

 

there is a couple places in australia that make 3 and 4 rotor eccentric shafts but they are not built like standard mazda 3 and 4 rotor engines.

 

Yes, there is one shop in SoCal that builds 3 and 4 rotor engines. But like Karack said, they aren't the 20B and R26B that you're thinking of. They use 12A parts with a custom eccentric shaft. But still, if you want a 4 rotor that will be a hell of a lot cheaper than what a true R26B would cost.

 

"top of the line rebuild" and "under $4000" don't go together in the same sentence....unless you find a builder who doesn't want to make any money on the deal.

 

this guy isn't to clear on what he really wants does the 4 g's cover just the rebuild or does this include taking the motor out rebuilding it and putting it back in the car clearify that for us.

 

Exactly, plan on over double those $$ figures.

There are places in the USA that makes 3/4 rotor shafts, even we can make them.....

 

what mods do you have to do to the plates in order to run the 3 or 4 rotor and where could you pick blue prints for these shafts

 

adam hamen of Rx7specialties.com aka rotoryengine. Hes the best builder, or one of the best. give him a call. he'll build you what you're looking for and within your budget. his number is 403-246-6980. hes in canada and his shipping rates are not bad at all.

 

or noob boy can find the shops that are close to him by DOING A SEARCH, then calling them and asking them if they can do what he wants.

btw, Weston, having a HP number and dollar amount in your head doesn't really tell anyone anything.

 

haven't had a failure yet, knock on iron.

yes, i can't even afford an FD but isn't it about liking your job is what is important?

 

Unfortunately you get what you pay for! If you want an awesome rebuild with confidence and no worries seek www.pineappleracing.com they're located in Oregon.

 

Karack kicks ***. Plain and simple. And top of the line rebuild and under $4k go together perfectly for him.

 

your all stupid... hes not asking about a 3, or 4 rotor... he wants to build 500+ hp out of a 13b im not even sure this is possible...

hmm, **** the 3 rotor.. 4 rotor would be fun! or maybe a 5 rotor... now that would be hardcore!

 

sure it's possible.. with a turbo on the side.

even an S4 block can handle 500WHP but to do it everyday i would probably suggest upgrading to hardened stat gears and possibly balancing the rotating assembly. then there's people who will say you need to dowel the motor... those people obviously are not tuners and do not do the job from front to back.

personally i don't give a **** about trying to get more customers at this point but you can do a decent job for under $4k on building a 13B(any series) block unless you want some radical **** done just to make yourself feel better about it.. i prefer to do everything from building the engine to doing its final tune just so the cars don't go through several people's hands, people who may have differing ideas.

of course adding rotors is going to make power easier to come by but people are getting more and more power out of these engines by the day and most are not doing some fancy state of the art **** to do it aside from the engine management systems.

overbuilding an engine is fine, but telling people they NEED to do it is getting out of hand.. i'm getting tired of the preachy people around here telling their side of things like it is how it must be.

wanna know what i do to an FD engine to prep it for 500WHP? i rebuild it and put it back into the car. it's all in the setup and tune people.. if you're running 16PSI and running your car hard at the track all day on pump gas even the rotary gods won't save your ***.

 

agreed +1

TO RX94

But just because pineapple is know for good motors don't mean there the best there is also racingbeat, mazdatrix, speed-machine, among many others they all do good work and the all have good reps and bad reps. But some of the best motor rebuilds are done in garage from home by some of the people here on the forum that could save he/she half the money and still get he/she the same quality performance and tunning.

examples would be like karack, guitarjunkie (R.I.P) 13bnos, manny vidal, bengi vidal, crispeed, and among many others here on the forum.

 

well, i wouldn't say i work from my garage as i have a 2000square foot shop but i do all the work myself and not everything in the shop is state of the art, hell it can even look assy to some people until i get the new shop set up but trying to keep up with the demand all by myself does have its limitations and that comes at the expense of keeping everything looking all neat and pretty in the shop. but i gaurantee you i would eat off a motor when i am finished with it and that is no BS.

 

No diss intended.....just adding up the costs of all new seals and two new rotor housings, oil pump, water pump, lapping side housings, streetporting housings, milling out rotors for 3mm seals (optional), that doesn't leave much out of $4k.

Do you have a day job or something? Or do you live in your shop? (no offense meant whatsoever)


Oh, and aside from all the above, the OP is wanting 500 HP and is worried about spending more than $4k on a rebuild? Yeah, those two things go together.....

 

nah, you're just one in the boat of 'if it's torn apart it needs new rotor housings and the irons lapped regardless of how much wear they have on them' crowd. i don't mind that you guys prefer your methods but as i beat my head on the wall trying to explain it to some, i do not tell people they have to do it that way. i wish i had customers who had fat wallets and i could build motors with all new parts all day long but i realize most don't have that in their budget.

if you think all the guys who run their 13Bs at the strip pushing 800+WHP use brand new housings i bet you would be surprised how many don't because it is damn expensive. anyone who expects to get a long life out a 500+RWHP rotary even with brand new housings is living in a dream world anyways so why spend a ton of money that probably won't last much longer than 30k miles anyways? i'm no bookkeeper but that doesn't make much sense to me when used parts are gonna get you just about as far.

i could go on and on and on about one side vs the other but to tell you the truth i am tired of trying to explain why one works, the other works and they both get the job done. my customers trust me and that is all i care about.

 

Do you employ the same philosophy on more mildly driven cars where they should reasonably expect 80k+ miles out of the motor?

 

^ I know he does since he's built countless mild streetport daily driver engines for people, including his own engine wich started out as the daily driver and is slowly becoming a track monster

 

My bad i wasn't trying to dis-respect i was just saying to the other dude many here on the forum are quick to spit a shop name that is known accross the world but over look many other people like your self that do the same quality work if not better. Where's your shop at and what's it called? If you don't mind me asking