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04-08-05, 08:26 PM
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n/a is about $1200 base price for a rebuild, add in $200 if you would like a streetport. if you need the engine pulled and installed add on $500 plus i recommend doing all maintenance items at the same time as the rebuild to bring the reliability factor back up to near new.
i can pick up the motor and deliver it to you free of charge if you wind up pulling it yourself. turnaround is about 1 week if you pay the deposit ($500 to cover rebuild parts) in advance, about 2 weeks if you drop off the motor and deposit off to me same day(parts shipment takes about a week). payment requires a decent condition core engine, if you have no core add $250.
although it sounds like a lot of money it is the best price you will find locally, guaranteed.
thanks for the referral Bert.
i can pick up the motor and deliver it to you free of charge if you wind up pulling it yourself. turnaround is about 1 week if you pay the deposit ($500 to cover rebuild parts) in advance, about 2 weeks if you drop off the motor and deposit off to me same day(parts shipment takes about a week). payment requires a decent condition core engine, if you have no core add $250.
although it sounds like a lot of money it is the best price you will find locally, guaranteed.
thanks for the referral Bert.
04-08-05, 08:36 PM
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I called mazda recyclers in rancho and a rebuilt there is 1300 no core(at least thats what the irritated sounding guy on the phone said). Whats replaced with the rebuild? I definitely would rather buy from a fellow enthusiast then someone who sound disinterested. You wouldnt happen to sell cores would you? I think I'd like to keep a stock engine for emmisions.
04-08-05, 08:53 PM
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i have parts to make a core cleaned and ready for reassembly. $350 for the core, great price considering it takes about 30 hours to prep the parts.
personally i have had no dealings with the Rancho boys so i can give no positive or negative feedback on them.
the core isn't a huge deal, i just like to keep a rotating stock of parts since i only have 2 n/a cores at the moment. i use Rotary Aviation seals but for about $50 more i can install Atkins and i can see about getting the best price for OEM seals if you would prefer them over both RA and Atkins' seals but personally i haven't seen many problems with either of their seals on many of our forum member's rebuilds. i run Atkins seals in my T2 and plan on putting up over 300RWHP with them, i have had good results with both makes of seals though.
i give a 1 year/12k mile signed warranty covering the basics of engine warranty: proper installation, maintenance kept up, not overheated, blah blah yadda yadda.
rebuild procedure:
1st) the engine is torn down for cleaning and inspection.
2nd) parts are measured to be sure they are within spec.
3rd) any preventative repairs needed are made and any modifications made.(the iron housing seal lands have a tendency to have thin castings, these castings are reinforced to help prevent failure. port work done, etc.)
4th) engine is reassembled.
personally i have had no dealings with the Rancho boys so i can give no positive or negative feedback on them.
the core isn't a huge deal, i just like to keep a rotating stock of parts since i only have 2 n/a cores at the moment. i use Rotary Aviation seals but for about $50 more i can install Atkins and i can see about getting the best price for OEM seals if you would prefer them over both RA and Atkins' seals but personally i haven't seen many problems with either of their seals on many of our forum member's rebuilds. i run Atkins seals in my T2 and plan on putting up over 300RWHP with them, i have had good results with both makes of seals though.
i give a 1 year/12k mile signed warranty covering the basics of engine warranty: proper installation, maintenance kept up, not overheated, blah blah yadda yadda.
rebuild procedure:
1st) the engine is torn down for cleaning and inspection.
2nd) parts are measured to be sure they are within spec.
3rd) any preventative repairs needed are made and any modifications made.(the iron housing seal lands have a tendency to have thin castings, these castings are reinforced to help prevent failure. port work done, etc.)
4th) engine is reassembled.
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04-08-05, 09:03 PM
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Nearly everything you said makes no sense to me. I'm new to rotories so I'll trust your experience. I want to squeeze out as much power as possible, but from what I've read so far the current motor isn't the best choice for that. Is it possible to put an NA over 250whp. Let me know if you can help me out. I dont know if I'm asking for to much my wrx put down 270awhp and is expected to be over 400awhp after the rebuild. I understand the it's all relative to how much I spend, I just want to get an idea of how much I'm gonna need spend.
04-08-05, 09:10 PM
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to get over 200RWHP out of a non turbo rotary it takes a LOT of work and the car will be unsmoggable with the engine. serious port work, exhaust/intake mods and a standalone fuel computer would be required to get over 200RWHP from an n/a engine and it gets quite pricey... not to discourage you but it does take a lot of money, knowledge and time to make a fast n/a.
you can do a turbo swap yourself for around $1000-1200 but the cheapest easiest way to get some power is to simply buy a turbo rotary. rotaries can produce rediculous amounts of power but the airflow is the key to producing the power, forced induction is the easiest way to unleash that power but it is all personal preference, n/a's are still quite fast but not as fast out of the box as a turbo II.
you can do a turbo swap yourself for around $1000-1200 but the cheapest easiest way to get some power is to simply buy a turbo rotary. rotaries can produce rediculous amounts of power but the airflow is the key to producing the power, forced induction is the easiest way to unleash that power but it is all personal preference, n/a's are still quite fast but not as fast out of the box as a turbo II.
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Originally Posted by Karack
n/a is about $1200 base price for a rebuild, add in $200 if you would like a streetport. if you need the engine pulled and installed add on $500 plus i recommend doing all maintenance items at the same time as the rebuild to bring the reliability factor back up to near new.
i can pick up the motor and deliver it to you free of charge if you wind up pulling it yourself. turnaround is about 1 week if you pay the deposit ($500 to cover rebuild parts) in advance, about 2 weeks if you drop off the motor and deposit off to me same day(parts shipment takes about a week). payment requires a decent condition core engine, if you have no core add $250.
although it sounds like a lot of money it is the best price you will find locally, guaranteed.
thanks for the referral Bert.
i can pick up the motor and deliver it to you free of charge if you wind up pulling it yourself. turnaround is about 1 week if you pay the deposit ($500 to cover rebuild parts) in advance, about 2 weeks if you drop off the motor and deposit off to me same day(parts shipment takes about a week). payment requires a decent condition core engine, if you have no core add $250.
although it sounds like a lot of money it is the best price you will find locally, guaranteed.
thanks for the referral Bert.
And if you can beat my deal I might consider coming to you from now on, instead of doing it my self 
04-08-05, 09:32 PM
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you can pick up a complete Jspec for around $800 with tranny intercooler and turbo but normally the engines do not last long before the coolant seals let go due to the fact that the engines had been sitting around for ~10 years without any use. normally we(forum members) rebuild the Jspecs since they are commonly great cores due to their low mileage. you can pick up wiring harnesses and ECU's off of ebay cheap enough but there is a few other changes you will need to do depending on whether the engine you get is a series 4 or 5.
the other option is to simply sell your n/a and pick up a T2, with a little searching you can pick up a decent condition one for $1500+
the other option is to simply sell your n/a and pick up a T2, with a little searching you can pick up a decent condition one for $1500+
04-08-05, 09:35 PM
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Do you charge the same to rebuild a turbo motor? And also you have any useful links I searched ebay and did a google but most places don't seem to carry rotories
04-08-05, 09:47 PM
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turbo motors cost about $400 more due to the price of the extra 'special' gaskets from mazda, the exhaust gaskets are a bit pricey...
try checking the for sale section here on the forums, there are some guys who sell Jpec motors here and have good reps.
try checking the for sale section here on the forums, there are some guys who sell Jpec motors here and have good reps.
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