slopoke03

Sup guys, I just got off of the phone with Scott at RotaryX and we have confirmation for our Steve Kan tuning session, April 28th-30th. (Most likely Saturday and Sunday but since a lot were interested we may need the extra day) As promised, here are the details.

Steve charges a flat rate of $350 for a tune. Thanks to "socalrotor" we were able to get a great deal at Rotary Racing and Reliability in Santa Ana. Dyno rate is $75/hr, no hidden fees just need to sign a waiver stating if your rotor pops its not their fault (standard), and Steve is given the flexibility to tune the way he likes. The guys there seem real cool and laid back so itll be a good time there.

Details

Where: Rotary Racing & Reliability, 2608 S. Harbor Blvd. Santa Ana, Ca. 92704
When: April 28th-30th
How Much: $350 + $75/hr
How to sign up: http://www.rotaryx.com/index.php?a=1002&b=366
its a link to the RotaryX site where Steve is taking the signups.
Non-refundable Deposits of $100 are sent to me and I pay Steve with the cash. The rest is due at the tune; payable to Steve Kan. PM me for where and to who to send deposits to. Also send your setups so I can pass them along to Scott and Steve so they can be ready. Also include the type of tune, dyno or street.

Anyone know of a place close to the shop where we can do a street tune with no hassles from the cops?

Info and Signups are posted up on RotaryX.com There are 15 slots and they will fill up pretty quickly.

Also, anybody got an extra room or a couch for Steve to crash? He's a cool guy and could use a place to crash for the weekend.

RX7_Fanatic

it says on site 200$ non-refundable fee...i thought it was 100?

rzograbian

ill stop by and say hi..

ive planned one of these... Steve is really cool but this time, he needs to get drunk or something.. he never has fun when he comes here lol...

good luck guy's!

socalrotor

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Glad to see you went with RR&R. You wont be disappointed with the guys. See ya there.BTW I know Louie has a close street to the shop that they "test" on.

slopoke03

Sorry about the confusion. I read the rotaryx site after writing my post. Deposits are to be $200.

The guys at RR&R seemed pretty cool and laid back. Thats good that there's a street out there cause I may lean towards doing a street tune.

RX7_Fanatic

maybe steve can chime in on this one, but what is the best kind of tune in order to get the car running the smoothest (no hickups, bucking, etc).

i'm pretty happy with how fast the car is right now, but it runs like ****.

BoostedRex

Stuck so it won't get lost in West Section.

slopoke03

Thanks BoostedRex.

Check out the www.rotaryx.com/stevekan page and it goes over the difference between street tunning and dyno. For driveability, I think street is better because it's real road situations and tuned according to how you like to drive.

The dyno at RRR is an inertial dyno and cannot engine load the car to give it that real road driving situations.

RX-Heven

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I need to be assured that I can have the first or second spot on Friday the 28th.
I suggest you start a list with a schedule and available spots bay day and time.
I don't think anyone will do this by "bidding" on a random tuning spot over 3 days. Because of this I don't think the dutch auction is a good idea but you're the one running the show....

I went ahead and made a bid anyways but will not send in a deposit until I am assured of the spot I need.
I am racing the car getting tuned the next two days after this (April 29-30) up in Norcal (Infineon Raceway) and need to get home to San Francisco at a decent hour to finish prepping.

RX7_Fanatic

wait so there is a possibility taht even tho i say i'm in, someone can outbid me at the last second? i thought he charged a flat rate? will someone please explain this to me????

in other words, if this is gonna go over 350, i cant do it...so someone better get the facts straight now before i blow $200 on a deposit.

rzograbian

no offense but whoever is planning this is making it too complicated.. search my name and do it like i did... very easy and no confusion... and no "dutch auction" either hahaa..

RX-Heven

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I agree.
The dutch auction is not clear and non-refundable deposits will keep people away. Like I mentioned before, a schedule is paramount.

Roman and I have successfully organized several of these with Steve in the past. Here are the links to them if you want a "template" of how to do it better imho.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...eve+Kan+Tuning

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...eve+Kan+Tuning

slopoke03

Guys I agree with everyone but I think Scott and Steve are switching over to this new process for their tunes. You cannot be outbid, the bid should just be thought of as the sign up sheet. As far as the deposit I understand and maybe RotaryX should chime in to clear everything up.

Regarding the Friday tune, RotaryX, can Steve start the tunes friday? If so, you're first given your race.

pluto

The bid thing is just a signed up sheet like what slopoke03 mentioned. The reason why we did it this way was to help eliminate the hassle of someone taken care/organizing it by themselve. This will help take care of any headache trying to gather the deposits from anyone and eliminates those who claims interested but never put a deposit on from the list. it also shows if the person is already on th elist or not based on the signup sheet. it also provide a common place for everyone to see where/when the next tuning trip will be instead of scatter all over the forum and not be able to find the thread.


I'm sure both Dave and Roman can chime in how much work it was to organize one of these things. This is suppose to be a way to help eliminate the work load from everyone.

As for friday, It all depends on how many people are commited, If you have more than 12people, I'll be there for 3 days for sure but 10 or less, it'll be only sat and sunday.

RX7_Fanatic

so we send the $200 dollar deposit to slopoke still right?

RotaryX

Yes, Send a money order or check made out to Steve. As for the Dutch bid process, The first 14 people to place there bid will have a slot in the tuning session.

1FunR1

Have you talked to Steve about this? I thought you need to be able to put a load on the car to get a decent tune. I don't care how great the dyno price is if it isn't the right dyno. I would like to hear Steve's recommendation before I commit $$$. Hopefully I'm worried over nothing .

-Ken

GoRacer

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^ I would agree with that. Also, I thought Dynamic Autosport offered a flat rate of $100/ea person which would be $50 cheaper per/person on a per/hour charge. I would much rather have the flat rate charge, especially as it can go alot longer then 8hours/day.

I would also prefer a dyno with a load over street tuning. I think that level of fine tuning would be best for a group tune on a rented race track.

slopoke03

GoRacer, your last post on the other thread about this dyno day stated it was $100/hr with a $50 hookup fee. Has this been changed to a flat rate?

Either way, Ill call up RR&R to verify if they can load the car on the dyno. Ill also call up R&D dyno for a backup. Ill let everyone know the details.

Steve, can you still get the most out of the cars if its not a loading dyno?

GoRacer

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I just went there to day to verify because that's what they originaly told me ($100/person & not hour) but now it's $100/hr + $50/person hook up fee. They originaly said they would waive the hookup but now won't waive it because they will only rent with their guy operating the dyno and their guys strapping down/removing the cars. They did say their dyno can simulate load. I did not speak with the mgr, just the same guy and he asked the dyno guy. I left my # and details and said there would be at least 10 guys and two days. I think they are worried that Steve will knock all the cars out really quick and they won't make enough cash and since their tuner isn't tuning, he isn't making much cash either. ok, don't i'm trying to help.

GoRacer

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ok, i'm signed up (I think) so that makes it 5 confirmed total?

dhahlen

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As for your people with drivability issues... Steve tunes for power (?), since that is what everyone seems to want =P

If you have a commander, I can help you tune it for drivability, its actually pretty damn simple. Just pay for my gas.. lol. I'll have to disconnect my wideband and use it, but drivability tuning isn't too hard. Once you get the numbers you like on the dyno, smoothing things out for vacuum is cake.

When I pickup a datalogit, I'll be able to do a bit more.

GoRacer

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Whoops, I forgot about this part since the bid never asked for a payment. I assumed it would check me out with pay pal or CC. So, we have to send a money order instead of pay pal?

plaguepunx

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Bid placed...deposit sent. I think that makes 6

dhahlen

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So wait a second.. did Steve agree to do either/or? A road or a dyno? Where is this stretch of road at where we can do 20PSI runs in 3rd gear?