GB: Full Function Engineering Crank Trigger Kits - S4, S5, and RE 13B's
03-15-11, 04:13 PM
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GB: Full Function Engineering Crank Trigger Kits - S4, S5, and RE 13B's
It's finally here!
A well engineered, high quality, high resolution crank pickup for the S4, S5, and RE 13B Engines is now available to the public. This kit allows those with high performance ECU's to run multi-tooth Motronic style wheels which offer greater resolution/sensitivity with zero rpm drift. The days of running a sloppy OEM CAS that has to be "stabbed" or an ultra low resolution two magnet Hall-effect setup are over. These kits are essentially bolt-on and go.
The 36 tooth wheel (renesis & 36-2) offers 3x greater resolution than a stock FC pickup (CAS) and 18x better than a two magnet Hall-Effect setup.
With competent tuning these features combine for the smoothest / safest / most stable rotary engine you've ever driven.
We currently have an ECU compatibility list that is expanding as we're able to test more ecu's, so stay tuned for your ECU to be next!
Details
6061-T6 Construction
Protective Anodizing
18-8 Stainless hardware
OEM Quality Crank Angle Sensor
Crank Angle Connector Kit
Original CAS O-Ringed Cover
Colors
Full Function Blue & Satin Black
Blood Red & Satin Black (coming soon)
Options
Renesis Wheel
2 Foot Shielded Wire Extension & Connectors
coming soon:
Hall Effect Sensor
60-2 Wheel
36-2 Wheel
Additional Information
For use with OEM crank pulley
Not compatible with Power Steering & Air Conditioning
Works on 1, 2, and 3 rotor engines
ECU Compatibility
Haltech
Platinum Sport 1000
Platinum Sport 2000
Sprint RE
Motec
M400
M600
M800
M84
M2R*
M4*
AEM
30-1800
The retail on this kit is VERY reasonable @ $250 but we are offering an introductory group buy for RX7club members.
Group buy is as follows:
2-5 kits = $220 (~18% savings)
6-10 kits = $205 (~23% savings)
11+ kits = $190 (~29% savings)
*prices include shipping to the lower 48 states!* (Those out of country please ask for a shipping quote)
Payment forms accepted:
Paypal
Money Order
Cashiers Check
If you have any questions/comments/concerns please ask!
Thanks!
Full Function Engineering
A well engineered, high quality, high resolution crank pickup for the S4, S5, and RE 13B Engines is now available to the public. This kit allows those with high performance ECU's to run multi-tooth Motronic style wheels which offer greater resolution/sensitivity with zero rpm drift. The days of running a sloppy OEM CAS that has to be "stabbed" or an ultra low resolution two magnet Hall-effect setup are over. These kits are essentially bolt-on and go.
The 36 tooth wheel (renesis & 36-2) offers 3x greater resolution than a stock FC pickup (CAS) and 18x better than a two magnet Hall-Effect setup.
With competent tuning these features combine for the smoothest / safest / most stable rotary engine you've ever driven.
We currently have an ECU compatibility list that is expanding as we're able to test more ecu's, so stay tuned for your ECU to be next!
Details
6061-T6 Construction
Protective Anodizing
18-8 Stainless hardware
OEM Quality Crank Angle Sensor
Crank Angle Connector Kit
Original CAS O-Ringed Cover
Colors
Full Function Blue & Satin Black
Blood Red & Satin Black (coming soon)
Options
Renesis Wheel
2 Foot Shielded Wire Extension & Connectors
coming soon:
Hall Effect Sensor
60-2 Wheel
36-2 Wheel
Additional Information
For use with OEM crank pulley
Not compatible with Power Steering & Air Conditioning
Works on 1, 2, and 3 rotor engines
ECU Compatibility
Haltech
Platinum Sport 1000
Platinum Sport 2000
Sprint RE
Motec
M400
M600
M800
M84
M2R*
M4*
AEM
30-1800
The retail on this kit is VERY reasonable @ $250 but we are offering an introductory group buy for RX7club members.
Group buy is as follows:
2-5 kits = $220 (~18% savings)
6-10 kits = $205 (~23% savings)
11+ kits = $190 (~29% savings)
*prices include shipping to the lower 48 states!* (Those out of country please ask for a shipping quote)
Payment forms accepted:
Paypal
Money Order
Cashiers Check
If you have any questions/comments/concerns please ask!
Thanks!
Full Function Engineering
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03-15-11, 10:37 PM
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They bolt to the hub (with the pulley) not directly to the actual pulley itself (check picture). The trigger kit more than likely will not work on your gilmer drive kit because those gilmer kits tend to have a larger positive offset than stock pullies (farther away from the engine). A pulley/trigger kit combo is currently in the works though.
Jason
Jason
03-16-11, 10:08 AM
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We are currently working to ensure proper support with Microtech ecu's, so please bear with us! Will keep you updated.
FrankV702:
I would roughly guess 3-6 months away from a pulley/trigger kit. We're still organizing all the details to maintain a smooth running group-buy, but we'll let you know the details as soon as everything is sorted out.
RotorMotor:
We have an FD kit tested and 99.9% finished, just waiting on some hardware to finalize it. Pics and details coming very soon!
FrankV702:
I would roughly guess 3-6 months away from a pulley/trigger kit. We're still organizing all the details to maintain a smooth running group-buy, but we'll let you know the details as soon as everything is sorted out.
RotorMotor:
We have an FD kit tested and 99.9% finished, just waiting on some hardware to finalize it. Pics and details coming very soon!
03-16-11, 10:49 AM
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They bolt to the hub (with the pulley) not directly to the actual pulley itself (check picture). The trigger kit more than likely will not work on your gilmer drive kit because those gilmer kits tend to have a larger positive offset than stock pullies (farther away from the engine). A pulley/trigger kit combo is currently in the works though.
Jason
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03-16-11, 01:16 PM
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We are currently working to ensure proper support with Microtech ecu's, so please bear with us! Will keep you updated.
FrankV702:
I would roughly guess 3-6 months away from a pulley/trigger kit. We're still organizing all the details to maintain a smooth running group-buy, but we'll let you know the details as soon as everything is sorted out.
RotorMotor:
We have an FD kit tested and 99.9% finished, just waiting on some hardware to finalize it. Pics and details coming very soon!
FrankV702:
I would roughly guess 3-6 months away from a pulley/trigger kit. We're still organizing all the details to maintain a smooth running group-buy, but we'll let you know the details as soon as everything is sorted out.
RotorMotor:
We have an FD kit tested and 99.9% finished, just waiting on some hardware to finalize it. Pics and details coming very soon!
Great product!
03-16-11, 01:34 PM
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The megasquirt software looks to be flexible enough to setup for this kit, we will work on sorting the details out.
The bolt pattern should line up fine with the racing beat pulley, the only question is the thickness and offset of the pulley.
Unfortunately, to my knowledge the haltech will not support a 20B with anything other than stock CAS or stock FD trigger wheels currently. I'm sure the unit is capable, probably just needs to be recoded. If there is enough interest, they may be willing to do an update so we should all send them an email asking about it...
The bolt pattern should line up fine with the racing beat pulley, the only question is the thickness and offset of the pulley.
Unfortunately, to my knowledge the haltech will not support a 20B with anything other than stock CAS or stock FD trigger wheels currently. I'm sure the unit is capable, probably just needs to be recoded. If there is enough interest, they may be willing to do an update so we should all send them an email asking about it...
Last edited by FullFunctionEng; 03-16-11 at 01:37 PM.
03-16-11, 02:47 PM
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Thanks!
We have asked both Scott (scott@haltech.com) and Matt (haltechmatt on the haltech forums) about custom trigger setups in the past. Basically their response is they don't support full control over triggers and custom rotary triggers because it would be too complex and confusing for the average user, but also because they said there was no real interest otherwise. This is one reason we made the rx8 style wheels available. However, the rx8 trigger setup will only work with 2-rotors as far as we know.
Our first prototype wheel was actually a 20B using a 36-2 wheel running a motec, so we have the design and setup files for proper tooth offset, so setting it up on their end should be pretty easy. So now we just need to convince them to update for either ours or an rx8...
We have asked both Scott (scott@haltech.com) and Matt (haltechmatt on the haltech forums) about custom trigger setups in the past. Basically their response is they don't support full control over triggers and custom rotary triggers because it would be too complex and confusing for the average user, but also because they said there was no real interest otherwise. This is one reason we made the rx8 style wheels available. However, the rx8 trigger setup will only work with 2-rotors as far as we know.
Our first prototype wheel was actually a 20B using a 36-2 wheel running a motec, so we have the design and setup files for proper tooth offset, so setting it up on their end should be pretty easy. So now we just need to convince them to update for either ours or an rx8...
03-16-11, 05:01 PM
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Awesome design and aesthetic!! I'm probably in... just need to see the FD specific mounting to determine if there is interference with the CAS mounts and my alternator's custom side mounts.
BTW, what does the astericks after "M4" in the lead post represent?
Cheers,
Carlos
BTW, what does the astericks after "M4" in the lead post represent?
Cheers,
Carlos
03-17-11, 11:05 AM
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Awesome design and aesthetic!! I'm probably in... just need to see the FD specific mounting to determine if there is interference with the CAS mounts and my alternator's custom side mounts.
BTW, what does the astericks after "M4" in the lead post represent?
Cheers,
Carlos
BTW, what does the astericks after "M4" in the lead post represent?
Cheers,
Carlos
Some good news for you
You will see in the next week or two the pics of the FD kit. It is a lot more simple than the FC kits and should be no issue with your side mount alternator. It is also half the price.
Some not so good news
The M4 does NOT allow split timing with any wheel other than stock. (DOS based lack of support?!)
UPDATED
ECU Compatibility
Haltech
Platinum Sport 1000
Platinum Sport 2000
Sprint RE
Motec
M400
M600
M800
M84
M2R
M4*(No split timing)
AEM
30-1800
Electromotive
Tec 1
Tec 2
Tec 3/3R
Megasquirt
We're in the process of collecting data for the Microtech stuff but have a suspicion it will work on later ECU's.
The problem with the aftermarket pullies (i.e. Gilmer drive, 5 rib,etc) is that there are so many different manufacturers with different offsets it would be impossible to make matching trigger kits for every set.
For those that have aftermarket pullies..
If you can take a measurement from the hub to where your aftermarket crank pulley stops (coming forward away from motor) I can tell you exactly if it will work. (measurement needs to be within 0.010")
EVOPANDA, Ditch the AC/PS! Every rx7 owner knows having a properly running rotary is above all comforts! =)