XxMerlinxX

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No problem, next time there's a meet nearby we can go for a spin. The pullout came from an '02 SS with 19k miles. As far as bolt-ons just an underdrive pulley and ARP rod bolts along with the LS6 intake that came on it. It's also got a Torquer 2 cam from Texas Speed with supporting mods. I'm hoping for around 385-395 once it gets tuned. The last thing we're waiting on now is a fitting for the n2o kit and then we'll take it to get it tuned. The shot is a 150 dry shot, though with the little stock FD wheels on it I don't think I'll be able to use it for a while. Later on down the road I'll get a set of heads, but that'll be much later as I'm pretty tapped out as far as funds go. My ultimate goals are 450-475rwhp NA and ~600rwhp on spray.

XxMerlinxX

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Hey TT_Rotary.

BlackFD3

Thats awsome. To be honest to all of you. I have my swap finished already for about 1 year or so. I was just started a thread to see every bodys take on it. Looks real good.
What kit did you end up going with? I used the Hinson kit with a little mod from the local race shop so the oil pan is not the lowest point. Mine also has the simple bolt on parts, exhuast etc etc. I did not do headers to it yet because I am thinking of going the procharger route in the right front corner of the engine bay. Or a turbo set up. We will see what I do. Mine is also a 2002 out of a fbody that was wrecked in the rear. t56. Is yours auto or 6speed?

TT_Rotary

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thats funny.. b/c there's only an 80 lbs. weight difference.. between the aluminum heads, and the iron heads.. look at ls1tech.. thanks, and yes, the 323 is a LSx motor.. i've checked LS1tech.. go look for urself.

rgordon1979

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and everything you read on the internet is correct, huh??

jacobcartmill

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the internet is always right!

Eat-Pez

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There is not an 80lb difference between an iron headed LM7 and an aluminum headed one. Can you not add? The heads weigh 43lbs each. There is an 80 lb difference between a iron headed LM7 and a no headed LM7......

Listen, dipshit. I've got a copy of the GM LS1 service manual. Did you not see the weight difference between the LS1 block and theLM7 block???? Somehow, somewhere a publication from the damn ENGINE MANUFACTURER will hold more weight than an internet forum. And somewhere, posting information on the internet is harder than writing on a bathroom wall. But I guess it's not here.

And there's a 117lb difference between an LS1 block and an LM7.

The 5.3L truck motor IS NOT a the 5.7L Camaro/Vette/SST/CTSV/GTO motor. It's not. Sorry. Don't hate the player, hate the game, bro.

Here it is... from GM... LS1 specs
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/En...4322&engCat=ls



and the LM7 specs
http://media.gm.com/division/2005_pr...specs.html#lm7



A cast iron engine with a 96mm bore and 5.3L of displacement and a manufacturer's designation of LM7 is not the same as a cast aluminum engine with a 99mm bore and 5.7L of displacement and a factory designation of LS1. Go tell your GM shop buddies who are trying to pawn off their crap that they are WRONG. Just because LS1 heads will bolt on doesn't make it an LS1. I've got Cobra R rims on my FC... they bolt on. Is my car a Mustang?

The motor you're referring displaces 325 cubic inches. Not 323. Go tell you're GM shop boys they're wrong about that too.

How bout post a link from where you found it.

You've yet to post any credible info on this thread. Merlin gives you prices to back up his claims, you can't give prices to back up yours... just "my dipshit buddies who are still smart enough to pull the wool over my dumb *** tell me so"... that doesn't lend much credibility, bro... sorry. I post information PUBLISHED BY GENERAL MOTORS (who, by the way, engineered and produced the motor that you're trying to rename, in case you didn't get the memo on that) and you back up your bullshit with your buddies claims and an internet forum. Not even ****** Wikipedea....

Be sure to post pick of your cast iron boosted turd. Mean while, I'll be enjoying my 450hp, pump gas, perfectly balanced FC. O, that I built.... I didn't have to get free, left over crap from everybody that passed through a shop, and then get charged $9k for it.

Texas7

Thanks, Eat-Pez for finally posting what I have been thinking. Problem is, this idiot cannot, or will not read any of this. This has got to be the funniest thread in the history of the forum.

Listen up TT boy, you are being taken by your so-called friends.

*lurk mode back on*

XxMerlinxX

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It would appear that way, yes.

Troux

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I really don't see why you think it's so hard to get a swap done for under 9K. As a matter of fact, I got $4500-$5K for my FD parts that aren't used. If I didn't want to search to save money, and bought a pullout with a warranty, I could get an engine for about the same price range. So now I have the engine/tranny and the car, and I've broken even. Swap kit + fuel system components (FPR/filter/upgraded pump) + cooling system are going to be about $2,000, if that. Intake/headers, clutch hydraulics, AC/PS components, paying someone else to do the wiring, and all the misc. parts (fuel lines, wire connectors, clutch line, and whatever else) will be maybe $2K after shipping. Sorry, I'm having a hard time coming up with another $5K, unless you want to count upgrading the wheels/tires/rear end/brakes to handle a much faster car.

Eat-Pez

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I believe we're talking about $9k to pay someone else to do it for you. Hinson charges $8300, last I checked. And that's after you bring him the motor and transmission.

And dipshit was talking about $9k for a turbo LM7 swap. Yes, if you do most of it yourself and you shop around/wait for the best deals, you can definately get it done for less. It took me $4k to swap my FC, but I did all the work myself, I had a swap kit from another car, did all my wiring (btw, I'll mod your harness for you and I do more work than Hinson, Brismo, and Pyro, so your harness is almost plug-and-play), everything. After that, I probably have another $3-4k in wheels, paint, heads/cam, and other mods.

XxMerlinxX

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It's a 6-speed. If you're seriously into drag racing, the auto would probably be better, but I think a manual is just more fun in general. You think you'd really be able to stuff a procharger under the hood?

BlackFD3

That is the same set up I have as well. I am not big into drag racing. Just wanted a fun every day car to drive around with some extra kick to it. I loved the FD since I was young. SO no vette would do for me.
Yes it could be done. If I tilt the radiator to give me more room up top, I see where I can stick it in the corner to the right side. There is one other guy on V8rx7 that has done it before. I will post a link to some pics of how the car sits now and when I was building it. Still have to put the wheels on it and what have you. But I have them sitting in a box.... I did the pettit rear flares molded in, full kit, custom paint job blah blah blah lol... Will post soon

XxMerlinxX

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Nice, lookin' foward to pics. Anybody seen TT_Rotary? What happened to him?

BlackFD3

http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj281/xpysto/

Well here is the pics I promised. I could not get any while the day light was out. Had a party over here at my house for friends and family for the new year. But I managed to get some ok ones out side in the dark of it.
The car is fresh out of paint for about 1 week now. Still needs to be wetsand buffed and waxed, but the paint job looks amazing as is. For the $8208 that it cost. It better. There is gold flake in the paint job. So only when the light hits it at certain angles the whole car looks like it dances in the light. Maybe you can see it a little in some of the pics.
The cars history is I am the second owner of it. Had a little damage to the drivers door that I did not take a pic of, but I found a whole door in the salvage yard in great shape. So I picked it up and off it went to the body shop. The car is far from being done. Still need to clean it after the body shop and figure out the procharger or turbo route. Then under the hood will get cleaned up better. Need to put the wheels on and install the nos just for ***** and gigs. Any other pics or questions just ask and Ill post them for you or answer. Also in the photobucket is misc pics of the car while I was doing the motor swap to it, pics in the body shop, how mint it was when I first got it. Damage to the door happend while I owned it.

XxMerlinxX

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Looks good, those rims will look awesome with that paint. Did you cam the motor or are you just working with bolt-ons and nitrous?

TT_Rotary

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http://www.hiperformer.com/gmchevy53.html

read em and wheap boys!! LS BASED MOTOR.. A 323.. please.. tell me i dont know what im talking about.. ssshhhh... TT_Rotary pwned the rx7club!!

READ THE BIG BOLD LETTERING ABOVE THE PARAGRAPHS!! WHAT DOES THAT SAY.. SINCE I CANT SEEM TO READ.. MAYBE U CAN READ IT FOR ME..

WHAT DOES IT SAY??

LS.. LS BASED... WHAT?? HUH?? LS BASED MOTOR!!!

TT_Rotary

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u bit off more than u could chew kid.. no such thing as a 323?? WRONG!!! a LM7.. WRONG!! gee.. ur so smart ... stick to rotary's.

TT_Rotary

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whats wrong merlin.. dont have nothing to say to that?? didnt think so... and ur right.. this LM7 u speak of is probably garbage.. ur not giving me enough credit.. now the engine im getting.. comes 300+.. i see ur specs of the LM7.. 295.. not quite there.

XxMerlinxX

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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. ZERO! So some guy selling an engine on a website posts it up as an "LS based engine" in 323cid and obviously it must be so? He's trying to promote his product, of course he wants to attach that crap motor onto the coat tails of the LS series. Eat-Pez posted up ACTUAL references, not some for sale ad with the wrong information. And no, it's not a 323cid, it's a 5238cc engine which equals 325cid. Do you even know what cc and cid means??? Can you actually find some sort of REAL reference to a "323"? No, you can't, because it doesn't exist, no matter what your dumbass friends might tell you. So you can go read'em and "wheap".

Do the rotary fans and the chevy fans a favor and just sell every automotive related thing you own. Instead of butchering an FD, buy yourself a civic because that's about the level of intelligence you're on right now. Your "friend" with the shop has lied to you, probably in the hopes of charging you an assload so that he can go and buy a REAL engine, instead of the crap he's pawning off on you. You've been faced with multiple sources showing that you're wrong, but the only thing you can base your argument on is some online advertisement for an engine pulled from a flood damaged car. Why can't you just admit that you're wrong and start taking the advice of people who know vastly more about this than you do?

Eat-Pez

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You can't be serious, dipshit. Really. You can't.

You're telling me that I should take the word of highperformer.com over General ******* Motors?

Is that what you're telling me?


Really?



serious?

Do you see how ******* rediculous you are?

This highperformer.com... it's full of **** too. The 5.3L genIII Chevy small block ran from '99 to '04. On one line their site says it ran from 99 to 05... bullshit. And the other line it says it went from 95 to 05. Holy crap, they can't even get their **** straight from one line to the next. Not only that, but neither line is RIGHT. But here's the best part. At the bottom of the site, it says


Why the hell do they need TWO ******* DISCLAIMERS to say that their information might not be accurate? That's funny. Effin hilarious.

and the

that's great too. If the page was written in 04, then how do they know that the engine was produced in 05 too? Not only that, but you're siting a page that is 4 years old. Are you shittin' me?

And then there's their grammar.



Other than the sentance structure that essentally has no meaning to any English speaking person, WTF are they talking about? It TYPICALLY has a longer stroke than the 4.8L? Damn well hope it does. How bout, it ALWAYS has a longer stroke than the 4.8L. THAT'S WHAT GIVE IT MORE ******* DISPLACEMENT!!!

More excellent grammar and more wronginess : <--- that's a joke, dipshit



TIN??? C'mon, dipshit, you know this. Please tell me you know this.


Anyway, if I printed out their description and sent it to my 2nd grade grammar teacher, he head would explode.



So, after laughing my *** of at your credible source, I desided to see where they're from. I mean, with English like this, they gotta be from Nigeria or something. I click on the CONTACT US button I'm happy to see that they're domestic.

From Spokane, Washnigton..



Anyway, dipshit, while on their informative site, I desided to shop for a 4.3l engine for one of my Astros. It's a 97 and I just replaced the engine, but let's see what kind of deal I missed out on.

Wait, what? I click on 97 Astro and I get 5.0L V8. HAhahhahHAHAHHa...

http://www.hiperformer.com/engines/c...nes-x_227.html

For a few years on the late 80s, early 90s, they had 2.5s and 4.3s, but from 96 to 05, they only had 4.3L Vortecs. Don't argue with me on this either, dipshit. I know my Astros.

Anything else you wanna post up? Next time, make it informative, not just entertaining.

Eat-Pez

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Yes, that's the Wisconson Home Energy Assistance Program. So, apparantly, he believes we live in the upper midwest and are cold and broke. Oh, if he knew exactly how right he is.

Ha.. that's funny. Is it similar to the LSx motors? Yes. Are the LS and LM motors based on the same engineering? Yes. But the fact is, a 325 is not an LS motor. The English language is BASED on Latin. Does that mean English = Latin? Why don't you ask your boys at hiperformer.com. They seem to know the language quite well.

Jager

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Merlin and EatPez are my heros.

A fun read with taking care of misinformation.

RX7 allnight

you're lame. engines last as long as u want them to - piston or rotary. keep rotors in 7's and leave the lsx in the chevs its how it was meant to be dont try to change fate! or it will change you!

TT_Rotary

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eat-pez for a guy who cant even spell ridiculous, i wouldnt listen to you at all..

quote - "rediculous"

and its funny how on the LS1 tech forums, i read a thread that said the only difference between the 5.3L and the LS1.. is the cost of the engine, everything else fits up fine w/ the 5.3L u claim that isnt a LSx motor.. but yet, everything from a LS1 - LS7 can hook right up to this 5.3L that IM talking about, not you.. first of all, the LS1 is so expensive for its name.. every1 wants it b/c of the name.. supply and demand.. not many people have ever heard of the 5.3L.. and the 5.3L is a LS4!! please.. do your research on the LS4.. u will come to find out, its a 323ci 5.3L GM motor...

a guy on LS1tech took a 5.3L and took all the parts from a LS1/LS7 and made an LS7.. so please.. explain to me, how a NON-LSx 5.3L can hook right into the LSx motor parts?? since u claim this engine isnt a LSx motor.. it shouldnt be able to bolt right up.. hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... there's ya a brain buster.