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Old 05-27-05, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by capn
uhmmm then i think you would like the american V8s if you like the "larger" engine sound because most ferraris and lambos have small displacement engines the ferraris have 4.4 liter engines not that big. and they also have small liter to piston ratio like a v8 with 4.4 liters it about half a liter per cylinder. while american engines have 5.7 liter which is roughly .7 liter per cylinder.

if it sounds ****...it is or i just mis understood you
Lamborghinis must have small engines with a 6.0 V12 :rollseyes:

Don't mix Lambos and Ferraris up.

It's like mixing Rustanks with Camaros.

or

E55 with M5

the list goes on and on.

What I don't get is why bother with the HUGE costs of doing a proper v-8 conversion to a FD when you can save the $$$ and trot around in a Z06 with mods.

Sure, the Z06 is heavier, but is it really that much more of a performance issue with the vette being a wider car?

I'm not expressing an issue with the conversion, just the logic of the costs involved.
Old 05-27-05, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NiM0r
Sure, the Z06 is heavier, but is it really that much more of a performance issue with the vette being a wider car?

I'm not expressing an issue with the conversion, just the logic of the costs involved.
Because the RX-7 doesn't have the same steering wheel as a Cavalier or C1500

I like 'vettes just as much as every other red blooded American guy, just a bit out of my price range for the performance I want. A friend of mine was going to buy a C5 and the fact that the ***** and steering wheel all reminded him of his mother's Cavalier turned him off on the deal.

To each his own. V8 FD, 'Vette, Viper - they're all fast and handle well.
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Originally Posted by NiM0r
Lamborghinis must have small engines with a 6.0 V12 :rollseyes:
Compared to a 10.3 liter big block Chevy? Yeah.

What I don't get is why bother with the HUGE costs of doing a proper v-8 conversion to a FD when you can save the $$$ and trot around in a Z06 with mods.
You couldn't touch even an '01 Z06 for what converting a non-running FD to LS1/T56 power would cost. You'd end up with $5-10k left over for mods, depending on how much of the work you could do yourself.

Most people already have the cars, so it's not a question of "gee, what car can I put a V8 into today?" The question for most is "how do I keep the car I already have/like and ensure that I won't be worrying about replacing the engine again in the next few years?"

The thing that cracks me up is the ignorant anti-V8 swap idiots who start babbling about putting rotary engines in Corvettes and seeing "how they like it". Never once do they stop and think that you don't see Corvette owners searching for alternative engine solutions. Probably because their engines don't go up like Pop Rocks dumped in a glass full of Coca-Cola.
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Originally Posted by LT1-10AE
Because the RX-7 doesn't have the same steering wheel as a Cavalier or C1500
Neither does the Corvette. Any more.

I like 'vettes just as much as every other red blooded American guy, just a bit out of my price range for the performance I want. A friend of mine was going to buy a C5 and the fact that the ***** and steering wheel all reminded him of his mother's Cavalier turned him off on the deal.
That's a pretty superficial reason not to buy one. What did he think he was buying, a Mercedes? When you buy a Corvette, you're paying for the engine and the suspension, not a European luxury car interior. I call that mentality "JoeD Syndrome".

To each his own. V8 FD, 'Vette, Viper - they're all fast and handle well.
Oh, no they don't... Vipers can't handle because, um, they're 3,300 lb. pigs. Yeah, and so is the 3,400-3,500 lb. Supra...
Old 05-27-05, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NiM0r
What I don't get is why bother with the HUGE costs of doing a proper v-8 conversion to a FD when you can save the $$$ and trot around in a Z06 with mods.
Sorry I don't like domestic cars, the Z06 is about the best that I like but I'd never buy one. I don't really care for their interior or the rest of the car. I love my FD, it's interior, it's rarity, just didn't like blowing motors with my heavy *** foot. Everyone knows GM has made a great long block for years and the LS series are just awesome, so why not combine 2 great things!
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Met gnx7 at the track yesterday, nice guy, great car. This is the first "transplant" I've seen in person, and what struck me the most is how "uncluttered" the engine bay is compared to my 93tt. In my experience with everything from boats, tractors, farm equipment, manufacturing equipment, cars, and trucks, simple ALMOST always works better and lasts MUCH longer. I'm sure he can replace all his plugs and change his oil in the time it takes me to just pull my plugs. If I had the desire and $ to purchase a finished car with either a 3-rotor or a "transplant", and they both were the same price, without question I'd buy the transplant. Until you see one for yourself, don't judge.
BTW Mark, good luck next week with the challenge!
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Matt,

I assume this is you? We solved my cooling issues (replaced the Tstat as mine was gutted). Car performed well.

Good meeting you.

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Originally Posted by jimlab
You couldn't touch even an '01 Z06 for what converting a non-running FD to LS1/T56 power would cost. You'd end up with $5-10k left over for mods, depending on how much of the work you could do yourself.
exactly. the cost of building an LS1FD or LS1FC that can go head to head with a Z06 is 3/4 to half the cost of buying a used Z6, it should be a no-brainer why we build these cars, they rip and its cheap!

if I had over 30 thousand dollars then I might be looking at a used Z06 or other cars to mod out (S2000, skyline/sylvia, 350z, Mcoupe, etc) ... but I dont... so I built my LS1FC with that high a level of performance and its paid off in full.
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What is wrong with the F'ing site lately? 50%+ of the time when I try to reply it can't connect. I had a nice post for this thread and lost it. Sadly it happens a lot.
Old 05-28-05, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NiM0r
Lamborghinis must have small engines with a 6.0 V12 :rollseyes:

Don't mix Lambos and Ferraris up.

It's like mixing Rustanks with Camaros.

or

E55 with M5

the list goes on and on.

What I don't get is why bother with the HUGE costs of doing a proper v-8 conversion to a FD when you can save the $$$ and trot around in a Z06 with mods.

Sure, the Z06 is heavier, but is it really that much more of a performance issue with the vette being a wider car?

I'm not expressing an issue with the conversion, just the logic of the costs involved.

i was saying that an american big block, lets say the biggest mas produced one by cadillac , 500CID thats 8.3 liters (thats over 1 liter per cylinder) and its 4 less cylinders then a lambo engine. i was saying in comparison to the amount of cylinders. not actual displacement
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
What is wrong with the F'ing site lately? 50%+ of the time when I try to reply it can't connect. I had a nice post for this thread and lost it. Sadly it happens a lot.
...my best guess is that the forum's code engine is rotary powered.

hehehehehehehe
Old 05-29-05, 12:14 AM
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Must be running on pump gas then because on the right gas that code would kick most small block code : ) Pushrod V8 = Unix, Rotary = Windows (that will make Jim happy) and the ricer 4 cyl = Mac
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
and the ricer 4 cyl = Mac

...a better analagy would be that the Mac = a 900whp, 40mpg, ultra reliable engine...however you can't just go to any gas station to fill up. It's gas (software) can only be found in 1 or 2 stations in town, and is generally 3 times the price as normal gas.


PS-Can you tell I'm a mac guy? lol
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Can you tell I'm a mac guy? lol
My condolences. I didn't know there were any of you left.
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Hehe...theres a few of us left who like to think outside of the box. Probably about as many as there are who would put an American V8 into an Rx7.
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Originally Posted by academytim
Hehe...theres a few of us left who like to think outside of the box.
There's nothing "outside the box" about the Macintosh. It's a computer with training wheels that you can't take off.
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To each their own I guess. I like my "training wheels" computer. lol I sure wish I had bought some apple stock about 4 or 5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
Must be running on pump gas then because on the right gas that code would kick most small block code : ) Pushrod V8 = Unix, Rotary = Windows (that will make Jim happy) and the ricer 4 cyl = Mac
LMAO. Ahh, it's nice to have a cordial conversation in this section of the forum finally...

Mark,

Sorry we got so off topic here.. we're jes' havin' a little fun.
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Originally Posted by gnx7
Corner weighted my car yesterday. '93 Touring with sunroof, rear windshield wiper, R1 spoiler, '99 RZ side skirts, Gram Light 57 Pro 18x9's with 255/35/18 Toyo T-1S's (47lbs) and 18x10 275/35/18 Mich Pilot Sport rears (51lbs). No a/c or p/s, TriPoint adj bar, coilovers, no front bumper support (fiberglass part). Has spare tire, jack, rear carpet, no divider or rear bins.

2825lbs with nearly full tank of gas (maybe 3 gallons shy)
49.59% front l707 r697
50.41% rear l716 r708

So what does everything think?

Mark
I think that if you got rid of the rear wiper, you could shave .05% off of the rear.

Just kidding. Sounds awesome. Pics?
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