LS1/FD 2825lbs f49.59%/r50.41% :)
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From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by wingsfan
And individual ability. DamonB stomped all over my times at TMS in his stock FD. 
Proper? You keep using this word. I'm not sure you know what it means.
How does one justify the spoogefest you see over a 20b conversion then? It's not the "proper" engine either, but it is a rotary.
Different strokes for different folks is what it boils down to.
Proper? You keep using this word. I'm not sure you know what it means.
How does one justify the spoogefest you see over a 20b conversion then? It's not the "proper" engine either, but it is a rotary.
Different strokes for different folks is what it boils down to.
as far as using 'proper' so much, I think you either (a) are internet stalking me, (b) have the wrong guy, or (c) have way too much time on your hands
.A 20b in an rx-7 is great....it's still a rotary, just 50% more badass. I realize I am in the swap forum, so I won't say anything negative about the V8 thing. To each their own
Schadenfreude...Ha Ha
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From: Austin, TX
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
as far as using 'proper' so much, I think you either (a) are internet stalking me, (b) have the wrong guy, or (c) have way too much time on your hands .
. More C) though. 
A 20b in an rx-7 is great....it's still a rotary, just 50% more badass. I realize I am in the swap forum, so I won't say anything negative about the V8 thing. To each their own
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From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by wingsfan
A), And C) More C) though.
Have you been in an LS1FD yet? It won't change your mind, but I'd wager you'd have a new appreciation for it. If your're ever back in Texas (Austin) drop me a line and I'll be happy to take you for a spin.
More C) though. Have you been in an LS1FD yet? It won't change your mind, but I'd wager you'd have a new appreciation for it. If your're ever back in Texas (Austin) drop me a line and I'll be happy to take you for a spin.
Originally Posted by EricM
I think you missed this part - "Finally we weighed a stock '93 FD auto with stock driveline, wheels, full interior and it was 2909lbs with a full tank of gas!
50.67% front l742 r732
49.33% rear l739 r696"
Nope, I didn't miss that part. It's obvious he wants to justify the engine swap by removing ac, ps, and presumably the air pump. I was just noting that to compare apples to apples, my car weighs 175 lbs less than his. In addition, at that power level(300+ hp), it is more desirable to have rear weight bias than a 50/50 weight distribution, like I said 45/55 is considered best.
It's pretty funny how you guys want so much to justify your decision to go LS1 and make you feel better by not having ac and ps.
50.67% front l742 r732
49.33% rear l739 r696"
Nope, I didn't miss that part. It's obvious he wants to justify the engine swap by removing ac, ps, and presumably the air pump. I was just noting that to compare apples to apples, my car weighs 175 lbs less than his. In addition, at that power level(300+ hp), it is more desirable to have rear weight bias than a 50/50 weight distribution, like I said 45/55 is considered best.
It's pretty funny how you guys want so much to justify your decision to go LS1 and make you feel better by not having ac and ps.
But cut to the short of it, keyboard cowboy, wanna race?
I hope you know that none of us get riled up enough to mean anything... and if you -are- that riled up... well, pop a vicadin or two.
Mark,
Those numbers look good, congrats on getting that beast on the road!
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
A 20b in an rx-7 is great....it's still a rotary, just 50% more badass. I realize I am in the swap forum, so I won't say anything negative about the V8 thing. To each their own
Super Snuggles
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From: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
It's all a matter of personal preference. Some of us prefer leaving the proper engine in the car
8k redline shifts
the distinctive exhaust note
and the ability to streetably spool a sizable (T-66 or so) turbo with a tiny unique 1.3L engine
BTW, are my trailing arms on the way yet?
Super Snuggles
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From: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted by EricM
Yes, I am. A non engineer can understand the concept of center of gravity. It's not that hard.
I love people who pull facts out of their asses and then wave them around like everyone else should be impressed. I, at least, can recognize **** when I see it.
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
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From: Silicon Valley Bay Area
Rotary exhaust note can vary with a **** sounding exhaust as with any other engine exhaust.
90% of the ones out there, especially the single tip CB for the RX7 sounds like ***.
I've heard plenty of v-8's that sound like ***.
As far as I'm concern the ONLY engines that really sounds good are the ones from Ferrari. Maybe I like the higher pitch v-8 and larger engine sound.
It goes both ways and is purely subjective as with deciding on whether to go LS1 or 20B.
So does anyone have the a comparsion chart of 20B conversin costs vs. a LS1 costs with regards to engine swaps in a FD?
90% of the ones out there, especially the single tip CB for the RX7 sounds like ***.
I've heard plenty of v-8's that sound like ***.
As far as I'm concern the ONLY engines that really sounds good are the ones from Ferrari. Maybe I like the higher pitch v-8 and larger engine sound.
It goes both ways and is purely subjective as with deciding on whether to go LS1 or 20B.
So does anyone have the a comparsion chart of 20B conversin costs vs. a LS1 costs with regards to engine swaps in a FD?
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From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by jimlab
Oh, Christ, here we go again...
Yeah, that's totally unachievable with a piston engine...
Which sounds like **** and coats the back of the car with soot, but other than that...
That amazingly enough, acts just like a 2.6 liter 4-stroke...
BTW, are my trailing arms on the way yet?
Yeah, that's totally unachievable with a piston engine...
Which sounds like **** and coats the back of the car with soot, but other than that...
That amazingly enough, acts just like a 2.6 liter 4-stroke...
BTW, are my trailing arms on the way yet?
Mechanical Engineering
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From: South Carolina
Originally Posted by Hot Canine
Rotary exhaust note can vary with a **** sounding exhaust as with any other engine exhaust.
90% of the ones out there, especially the single tip CB for the RX7 sounds like ***.
I've heard plenty of v-8's that sound like ***.
As far as I'm concern the ONLY engines that really sounds good are the ones from Ferrari. Maybe I like the higher pitch v-8 and larger engine sound.
It goes both ways and is purely subjective as with deciding on whether to go LS1 or 20B.
So does anyone have the a comparsion chart of 20B conversin costs vs. a LS1 costs with regards to engine swaps in a FD?
90% of the ones out there, especially the single tip CB for the RX7 sounds like ***.
I've heard plenty of v-8's that sound like ***.
As far as I'm concern the ONLY engines that really sounds good are the ones from Ferrari. Maybe I like the higher pitch v-8 and larger engine sound.
It goes both ways and is purely subjective as with deciding on whether to go LS1 or 20B.
So does anyone have the a comparsion chart of 20B conversin costs vs. a LS1 costs with regards to engine swaps in a FD?
if it sounds ****...it is or i just mis understood you
None
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From: Minneapolis
Originally Posted by LT8TurboII
That could also be 50% more likley to fail. %150, I am liking those odds!
Concerned? He's around, it just took a couple of phone calls for him to pick up. He mentioned he took a couple days off and was trying to catch up, this was on Wednesday. This thread got way off track, lets here more about your theories center of gravity, polar movement, and if you need to you can always talk about the cars soul.
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Mechanical Engineering
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From: South Carolina
Originally Posted by Mdessouki
Concerned? He's around, it just took a couple of phone calls for him to pick up. He mentioned he took a couple days off and was trying to catch up, this was on Wednesday. This thread got way off track, lets here more about your theories center of gravity, polar movement, and if you need to you can always talk about the cars soul.
I broke it!
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From: Near Memphis
Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
Be nice, remember how reliable Hinson's car was for the PGD, and he's an expert that's done all kinds of these conversions. He only had to drive 30 miles to boot.
Hinson is not the first individual to have a catastrophic failure attempting the PGDs. Maybe the bad luck embedded in the "soul" of the RX-7 came back to haunt 'em. Considering most cars that compete in the PGDs are cars that are proven over months and years of troubleshooting I think Hinson did well for having the beast running and prepared to step up to the plate in such a short time frame.
Remember, if you aren't breaking stuff, you aren't fast enough
Hinson took quite a while to get me my mounts but they did come and the quality looks very nice. (have yet to get them in due to other stupid delays) i am sure after the accident he is even busier than usual so lead time may increase
