wingsfan

He ran those times in practice for the Pump Gas Drags. He then ran 9.54 on the run that he wrecked the car, in the Pump Gas competition.

Your blind hate is particularly annoying. Why do you even bother coming in here? People are sticking piston motors in 7s...get over it.

wingsfan

How on earth could this list of mods be considered anything cose to stock? Because he used a stock block and crank that was just machined a little? Gimme a break. I'm a big fan of DSMs, but that's not even close to a "stock bottom end".

Lets see, aftermarket pistons, aftermarket rods, aftermarket intake, aftermarket throttle body, a modified crank, and a stock displacement block. Yep, sure looks like the "stock bottom end to me". And you think he ran 1200hp on a stock bottom end. I guess he did all those mods for fun, and that he didn't make any extra power off of them? What's he making now, like 2000hp?

usmcjsy

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I said stock block and crank in my last post I do stand corrected on my earlier post. Also how is a V8 Piston motor with twin turbos even close to a stock RX7. Why I come in here you ask..? Cuz I wanna see what you V8 guys are up to. Just like a lot of you guys come into the lounge an kill sections bashing RX owners who said they killed a Vette and so on. Plus I wanna see if the V8 crowd with there street RX7s have turned out like a 8 second car yet. So far ther times I have seen are the same times the rotarys are capable of. If he ran 100% pump gas he needs to go talk to GM because they want 94 Octane in their 11.7 second vette, thats pushing 500 HP. So I dont see how a 9 second car is running pump with twin turbos. Also I was looking at Torque Central last night and I seen people in there plotting to stir stuff up in here with the rotary crowd. I saw one where they wanted to so somthing on April fools day. I seen Turbogarrett talking some smack and so on. So why are these people plotting to stir stuff up in here...? Why does the V8 crowd always spill over with their propaganda in the other forums in here..? They have their Torque Central and the have this section..? I figured I would spill some of their own garbage back in their own yard. I have seen some nice and impressive V8 RX7s, I can just never tell any of these guys that I actually think their car is pretty cool cuz I constantly see em bashing my car. Its hard to compliment and respect someones car when they dont respect yours. Also for my budget and actual level of giving a rats *** the rotary can do as much as I could afford to do with a V8. At best the most I could affrod is a 11 second car, as I have other hobbies which are expensive as well. So to do a V8 swap to run 11 seconds when I may be there this summer with my rotary makes no sense to me, and thats probably where the mods will stop with my car. I apologize to everyone on here including garrett, you guys got some nice cars. I am gonna wipe my grudge slate clean. I will also stay outta here if you guys can keep the rotary bashing to here and your Torque Central. We rotorheads like the rotory cuz we know the V8s are fast, and we like the challenge of racing V8 cars with somthing other than a V8 or a pistn motor for that matter. If any of you are hunters you will understand its like hunting with a bow instead of a rifle. The bow offers more challenge. So with that said please respect us and we will return the favor. No need to flame in the kill sections if a Vette got beat by a 7. Just take a deep breath and let it go. Plus if you guys can put Jimlab on a leash he seems to be the worse offender in doing that.

wingsfan

Not all of us bash, or harbor any resentment for our rotary powered bretheren.

Not yet, but it's coming I'm sure. Stretch in his 351W powered FB is real close, if not already there.

And when someone eventually passes the fastest time that a rotary is capable of? IMHO that's not a very good measuring stick of why a person should swap or not.

I assume he ran the 93 octane that he was required to by the rules.

What does the new Z06 and Hinson's car have to do with anything?

The vette and Hinson's car bear very littel similarity to each other, other than both being powered by GM engines. The internals aren't the same, and the tunes are certainly not the same.

The vette is a high compression 427. Hinson's is a low compression 370. The vette is likley running timing in the neighborhood of 25-28º, while I'd bet that Brian is running more like 17º. Lower compression and less timing allow Brian to safely (relatively, since Brian lost his motor) raise his effective displacement to the point that he's making more power.

I'd also wager that people will be able to upgrade the LS7 and still run pump gas too.

For the same reasons people poke ant hills with a stick I guess. Just to see people get worked up into a later.


Plenty of us still respect rotary powered cars. Personally, I don't care what's under someone's hood. All I care is that it's fast, and that the owner is happy with it. What's under the hood of my car should be irrelevant to anyone else.

Fair enough. Every person has their own goals and dreams of how to get there.

Do everyone a favor with your next post and hit the return key every once in awhile. Stream of consciousness writing is tough to read.

jimlab

Actually, you and flamin-roids are the only ones that I flamed in that thread, because neither one of you knows your *** from a hole in the ground...

turbogarrett

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Usmcjsy- I have nothing against the rotary or rotary enthusiasts, I was just responding to YOU and some of your ridiculous comments. Instead of sitting on the keyboard, starting crap with us, writing pages of nonsense, pasting info of shop's racecar's etc. while your car sit's on jack stands, I am out driving and enjoying my rx7. How ya like them apples?

If it's a race you want cmon down to the midwest rotary rally in august and we can venture to the drag strip, open highway or whatever.

snub disphenoid

Hey, my wallet got stolen by an african-american dude, that must mean all the african-americans in the world are scheming to steal my wallet. Because some ignorant tool walks into a thread touting V8s as the best thing since sliced bread doesn't automatically mean everyone in the "other engine conversions" section of the forum is exactly the same. Most of the people here say things like, "yeah, I was tired of getting crappy gas mileage, replacing motors every now and then, dealing with the rotary fuss", and everyone gets their panties in a twist and gets defensive. But prove them wrong. Find for me an FD that runs 6.8@104 in the 1/8th mile, gets 27mpg, is smog legal, and is cheap to maintain. It's not like it's untrue about rotary engines-as fun and as neat as they are, they're not perfect engines, and they have inherent drawbacks. Some people live with that, some don't. Just because someone is pointing them out doesn't mean they're bashing the engine.

Hinson can change boost programs, switch from their T-56 to their powerglide, and run 8's all day. If they want to drive the car on the street, they lower the horsepower to more like 900, and swap in a streetable transmission, so there you go, now you've seen it.

So I take it you don't care to invest any time investigating things like what octane ratings mean, what the specs on the engine are (11:1? on the vette, like 8:1 on Hinson's car?), what ignition timing can do, proper intercooling, what proper tuning can allow, etc. It was running at the PUMP GAS NATIONALS, you think they call it that for no particular reason?

Pay them no attention, just like we all shouldn't pay attention to you. If they make retarded ****-talking threads, they'll get deleted sooner than you can imagine.

Like how replacement parts are easy to find for LS1s, how LS1s get 27mpg, how they can run 11s and pass emissions, how they can accelerate in sixth gear, and how they enjoy their cars the way they are now? Yeah, I've been hearing a lot of that "propaganda" lately. It's not propaganda if it's a proven fact.

Yeah, they're the exact same people, too! I heard that Hinson says the rotary sucks. He hopes your pulsation damper blows and toasts you up inside your rotary TURD!!! V8 POWER!!!

You see, generalizations are really dangerous, dude, they get your *** kicked, owned, or embarassed, so try to shy away from them.

LT1RX7

Hey man I hate to break it to you but Hinson IS running a powerglide and has been for quite a while now.

Since he has never run an 8, I doubt he can run them all day. I believe his fastest ET to date is the 9.65 at the PGD.

Please get the facts before you start talking about this stuff cause it causes the "rotards" to get their panties in a bunch.